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  • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
    I told you i heard it in other places... you still haven't disproved it... so stop frontin' yourself.
    The onus isn't on me to disprove it since you came up with the statement in the first place. Or are you saying that because Harold Lederman didn't say that the fight doesn't go to scorecards after seven rounds in the event of a cut caused by a legal punch that means that it does?

    Tell me, are you aware of the term "specious reasoning" at all?
    Last edited by nomadman; 01-04-2011, 12:23 AM.

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    • Bottom line & what makes winning boxing is dominance on scorecards where the judges rule in your favor & legit stoppages where your opponent can't continue getting beatdown. . These are both facts that can't be denied....Vitali is the best at both...that's all the proof necessary. Why is he the best at both when it comes to all the heavyweight fighters that have fought through the years? Why can't we answer this,,,can we keep on saying it;s the competitions fault for his dominance like no other? How long is that going to fly?When are we going to realize this 6ft 7 boxing expert can't be beat in a legitimate way no matter who we throw in the ring with him... WERE each & everyone of his opponents OVERWEIGHT & of the tomatoe can variety? As that's THE ONLY way you can disprove his record. 3 times winning the belt is nO ABBERATION... ABOUT time we pay homage to the heavyweight with the best boxing PER OF ALLTIME barring none!

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      • Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
        The onus isn't on me to disprove it since you came up with the statement in the first place. Or are you saying that because Harold Lederman didn't say that the fight doesn't go to scorecards after seven rounds in the event of a cut caused by a legal punch that means that it does?

        Tell me, are you aware of the term "specious reasoning" at all?
        I'm saying we both don't have proof from a legit source that it's not a valid statement. I was honest...i heard it being mentioned several times from different boxing sites. I don't recall specifically.. so therefore I don't have substantial evidence but since you can't refute hit in a legit manner...then that means it's still out for debate until proven otherwise..kapish!

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        • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
          Bottom line & what makes winning boxing is dominance on scorecards where the judges rule in your favor & legit stoppages where your opponent can't continue getting beatdown. . These are both facts that can't be denied....Vitali is the best at both...that's all the proof necessary. Why is he the best at both when it comes to all the heavyweight fighters that have fought through the years? Why can't we answer this,,,can we keep on saying it;s the competitions fault for his dominance like no other? How long is that going to fly?When are we going to realize this 6ft 7 boxing expert can't be beat in a legitimate way no matter who we throw in the ring with him... WERE each & everyone of his opponents OVERWEIGHT & of the tomatoe can variety? As that's THE ONLY way you can disprove his record. 3 times winning the belt is nO ABBERATION... ABOUT time we pay homage to the heavyweight with the best boxing PER OF ALLTIME barring none!
          So are you going to answer my question at all? Or are you going to admit by default that what you wrote regarding the seven rounds scorecards stuff is unproven nonsense that invalidates a huge part of your initial argument?

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          • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
            I'm saying we both don't have proof from a legit source that it's not a valid statement. I was honest...i heard it being mentioned several times from different boxing sites. I don't recall specifically.. so therefore I don't have substantial evidence but since you can't refute hit in a legit manner...then that means it's still out for debate until proven otherwise..kapish!
            & funny how the onus isn't on u TO TRY TO DISPROVE it even though you tried with every breath of your being to do so....hysterical contradiction.

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            • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
              I'm saying we both don't have proof from a legit source that it's not a valid statement. I was honest...i heard it being mentioned several times from different boxing sites. I don't recall specifically.. so therefore I don't have substantial evidence but since you can't refute hit in a legit manner...then that means it's still out for debate until proven otherwise..kapish!
              No, not really. You seem to be suggesting that because Lederman (or anyone else who's a boxing authority) didn't specifically deny it, then it's true until proven otherwise. As I said, that's specious reasoning, and has absolutely zero weight in a debating environment.

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              • Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
                So are you going to answer my question at all? Or are you going to admit by default that what you wrote regarding the seven rounds scorecards stuff is unproven nonsense that invalidates a huge part of your initial argument?
                You know what...let me go do some google research...if i'm right I want a sincere apology WITH YOU SAYING THE WORDS VITALI'S THE MOST DOMINANT BOXER EVER... K!

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                • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                  & funny how the onus isn't on u TO TRY TO DISPROVE it even though you tried with every breath of your being to do so....hysterical contradiction.
                  I did so because I wanted to, not because it was my duty to do so. Not a contradiction at all, if you understood what the word meant in the first place.

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                  • Originally posted by jimmy1569 View Post
                    You know what...let me go do some google research...if i'm right I want a sincere apology WITH YOU SAYING THE WORDS VITALI'S THE MOST DOMINANT BOXER EVER... K!
                    Sure thing, if the website is a reputable one.

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                    • Originally posted by It's Ovah View Post
                      I did so because I wanted to, not because it was my duty to do so. Not a contradiction at all, if you understood what the word meant in the first place.
                      sON...LIKE i told the other dude or was it you..i don't remember... you're in the big leagues.... you try vehemently to tear down my argument...go to great lengths to try to disprove my statement...yet there was no validity & no talk about stoppages on a legit cut after 7 rds going to the scorecards...yet after all that you tried to do..you NOW tell me it was at your leisure.... Like i said i'll see if i can find some substantial evidence if it's alright with u LMAO!

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