Funny how Lewis fans justify.........

[Money Shot]

Bottom line the cut was opened up via dubious means and Lewis exploited it to stop a fight he was behind in on every judges card. Vitali had plenty fight in him so it was a hollow victory for Lewis and he knew it. Also Lewis might well have been 38, but he gave Vitali no training camp so that evened that one up, and the fact no rematch was offered says it all for me. If Vitali could fight that same Lewis again aged 39 he'd make the match tomorrow. For me Vitali is BETTER now than he was in that fight. The guy was still suffering from his injury against Byrd that didnt heal up proper until his lay off. Lewis, great fighter but he somewhat b****ed out, just like Bowe the ultimate bi tch.

[nomadman]

Bottom line the cut was opened up via dubious means and Lewis exploited it to stop a fight he was behind in on every judges card. Vitali had plenty fight in him so it was a hollow victory for Lewis and he knew it. Also Lewis might well have been 38, but he gave Vitali no training camp so that evened that one up, and the fact no rematch was offered says it all for me. If Vitali could fight that same Lewis again aged 39 he'd make the match tomorrow. For me Vitali is BETTER now than he was in that fight. The guy was still suffering from his injury against Byrd that didnt heal up proper until his lay off. Lewis, great fighter but he somewhat b****ed out, just like Bowe the ultimate bi tch.

Getting punched in the face is dubious now is it? I guess we can put asterisks next to all of Vitali's wins then if that's the case. And how about giving Herbie Hide some credit for their fight back in 99? After all, he was leading on all three judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage (by a series of dubious punches to the face that dubiously KHTFO).

Plus the crowd were all booing Vitali! Hide won the event for sure!

[Money Shot]

Getting punched in the face is dubious now is it? I guess we can put asterisks next to all of Vitali's wins then if that's the case. And how about giving Herbie Hide some credit for their fight back in 99? After all, he was leading on all three judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage (by a series of dubious punches to the face that dubiously KHTFO).

Plus the crowd were all booing Vitali! Hide won the event for sure!

Don't see any compare with Herbie Hide, a clean knockout. And I don't think the cut originated from a clean punch, probably came from the inside of the right glove in a clinch, although it was certainly worsened by punches again mostly from clinches. I note you don't comment on the lack of prep for Vitali and the fact Lewis bi tched out of a rematch. He basically quit the game after a close and controversial fight that left an unsatisfactory end to his career, one that fans still talk about because it didn't give a definitive ending, not for me anyway.

[nomadman]

Don't see any compare with Herbie Hide, a clean knockout.

My point about Herbie Hide is it doesn't matter what the hell the scorecards are at the time of a stoppage, unless the fighter who's stopped sustained an injury from an accidental illegal blow after four rounds. That's the only time the scorecards matter in such a case. No point otherwise going on (and on and on...) about it.

And I don't think the cut originated from a clean punch, probably came from the inside of the right glove in a clinch, although it was certainly worsened by punches again mostly from clinches. I note you don't comment on the lack of prep for Vitali and the fact Lewis bi tched out of a rematch. He basically quit the game after a close and controversial fight that left an unsatisfactory end to his career, one that fans still talk about because it didn't give a definitive ending, not for me anyway.

If you watch the replay between rounds 3 and 4 you can see the exact point at which Vitali got cut. It's from the big overhand right that Lennox throws about ten seconds into the round. No cuffing illegal blow from inside the clinch, no sneaky elbow, no fiendish whiplash from Lennox's dreads, just a clean hard punch.

Why should I comment on Vitali's lack of prep? Lennox had an equally short prep time. It wasn't an advantage or disadvantage to either fighter. And why on earth should I blame Lennox for retiring? He was getting old, obviously didn't have the passion for the sport he once had, and had already beaten all there was to beat. The only thing I blame Lennox for is leaving Vitali hanging around for a rematch that never came. That he retired when he retired isn't shameful at all. It is, in fact, eminently commendable.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Bottom line the cut was opened up via dubious means and Lewis exploited it to stop a fight he was behind in on every judges card. Vitali had plenty fight in him so it was a hollow victory for Lewis and he knew it. Also Lewis might well have been 38, but he gave Vitali no training camp so that evened that one up, and the fact no rematch was offered says it all for me. If Vitali could fight that same Lewis again aged 39 he'd make the match tomorrow. For me Vitali is BETTER now than he was in that fight. The guy was still suffering from his injury against Byrd that didnt heal up proper until his lay off. Lewis, great fighter but he somewhat b****ed out, just like Bowe the ultimate bi tch.

A punch is dubious?

Vitali and Lennox were both training for other fights. They were fighting on the same card.

And Vitali had a different injury against Byrd than the one he retired for 4 years from

[jimmy1569]

Please ignore the gruesome injuries on Vitali's face and look at what he's DOING : He is clinging for dear life. The young,fit, contender hanging on to an old man.....not hurt?....

It takes a half Blind VK for Lewis to even think about hurting him. Bottom Line is LEWIS caught him with 2 freebies & still couldn't put him down with half his face covered in blood. That is just testament to Vitali's heart & will. Let's cut the nonsense guys... lennox hit him with the kitchen sink & still couldn't take him out. Vitali's just too strong to taste canvas & this irks you. Vitali could've taken Lewis out in the 5th rd ALA RAHMAN when Lennox was on the ropes begging to get ktfo..just that VK was just as tired as Lennox because of the bombs they were trading.. so like i said stop the nonsense...bottom line is VK won 2/3 of the fight by all accounts & judges that are paid to score the fight as it happened. Compubox states he landed 2/3 of all the punches that connected. That's all I NEED to know about who got the better of whom.. Lennox DID NOT STOP VK...THE DOCTOR DID..... ONCE YOU ACCEPT THAT THIS IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED...YOU'LL JUST REMAIN IN DENIAL... SO WHAT IF HE CAUSED AN ACCIDENTAL CUT. VK WAS READY & WILLING TO GO ON... 4 RDS TO 2 RDS IS THE OFFICIAL SCORE OF THE BOUT. IF LENNOX WANTED TO WIN LEGITIMATELY & WITHOUT ASTERISKS... HE SHOULD'VE THOUGHT ABOUT WINNING 4 RDS TO 2 & THERE'D BE NO ROOM FOR ANYONE TO DEBATE THE LEGITIMACY OF HIS W.... THOSE ARE THE FACTS! DEAL.....

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It takes a half Blind VK for Lewis to even think about hurting him. Bottom Line is LEWIS caught him with 2 freebies & still couldn't put him down with half his face covered in blood. That is just testament to Vitali's heart & will. Let's cut the nonsense guys... lennox hit him with the kitchen sink & still couldn't take him out. Vitali's just too strong to taste canvas & this irks you. Vitali could've taken Lewis out in the 5th rd ALA RAHMAN when Lennox was on the ropes begging to get ktfo..just that VK was just as tired as Lennox because of the bombs they were trading.. so like i said stop the nonsense...bottom line is VK won 2/3 of the fight by all accounts & judges that are paid to score the fight as it happened. Compubox states he landed 2/3 of all the punches that connected. That's all I NEED to know about who got the better of whom.. Lennox DID NOT STOP VK...THE DOCTOR DID..... ONCE YOU ACCEPT THAT THIS IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED...YOU'LL JUST REMAIN IN DENIAL... SO WHAT IF HE CAUSED AN ACCIDENTAL CUT. VK WAS READY & WILLING TO GO ON... 4 RDS TO 2 RDS IS THE OFFICIAL SCORE OF THE BOUT. IF LENNOX WANTED TO WIN LEGITIMATELY & WITHOUT ASTERISKS... HE SHOULD'VE THOUGHT ABOUT WINNING 4 RDS TO 2 & THERE'D BE NO ROOM FOR ANYONE TO DEBATE THE LEGITIMACY OF HIS W.... THOSE ARE THE FACTS! DEAL.....

Lewis won by TKO

[jimmy1569]

I judge this by looking at Vitali's absolute rubber legs and hanging on for dear life after that famous uppercut. That is the only reason he stayed up, he grabbed Lewis like I've never seen a hurt fighter grab another. That was a great move because most likely he would have gone down.

If you notice between Lewis and V.klitschko when they were hurt, Lewis wasn't able to clinch, Klitschko did. Yet it's still obvious that the one that was on "***** street" was V.Klitschko.




lol I'm sorry but did you know that Vitali was knocked out cold in a kickboxing match against Pele? You shouldn't have brought this up. I almost feel bad bringing it up.

sON...PLEASE... vitali was just strong enough to hold lennox after the shots.. you can pray & wish that he did taste the canvas but that has never happened before in a professional boxing ring. If lENNOX couldn't take him out with his best shots landing on a semi-blind VK..THEN NO ONE TAKES HIM OUT. IF CORRIE SANDERS CAN'T TAKE HIM OUT WITH A FAST UNDETECTED SOUTHPAW POWER SHOT..THEN NO ONE TAKES HIM OUT.. vITALI knows how to survive when he's hurt or dazed. He JUST has the tools necessary to whether the storm..everyone knows how he pummeled SANDERS afterwards.

As for the kickboxing pedigree.. he was a 2 time amateur champion kickboxer & a 4 time professional kickboxing champion.. anyone can be hurt if a kick lands just right & this was way before Vitali became a pro boxer. Pele was just lucky that Vk DIDN'T land his fist on his face first.. Nice try though!

[jimmy1569]

Getting punched in the face is dubious now is it? I guess we can put asterisks next to all of Vitali's wins then if that's the case. And how about giving Herbie Hide some credit for their fight back in 99? After all, he was leading on all three judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage (by a series of dubious punches to the face that dubiously KHTFO).

Plus the crowd were all booing Vitali! Hide won the event for sure!

LMFAO...... SO hIDE WAS winning the first half of the first rd because Vitali was feeling him out. Did Vitali NOT knock him down at the end of the ist rd? How could Hide BE WINNING AFTER 1 rd IF that was the case? Only fighter to legitimately be leading on all scorecards after the 1st rd against VK was Sanders & that was due to a punch he landed with 10 seconds to go that rocked VK..

vITALI proceeded to KTFO hide in rd 2.. so that's a 10-8 rd right there.. PLEASE STOP with the rubbish. What don't you get about all 43 fights leading on the scorecards when they concluded. Sanders is the ONLY one he's ever trailed & that was only after the first rd & a half..the ensuing 6 or 7 rds was a brutal beatdown.

[jimmy1569]

Vitali has fought 3 fighters from England & nearly knocked them all out in the second rd.. Hide..FranCIS & Lewis.. If I were HAYE..I'D STAY AWAYE!