Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley Possible at 148, For WBC 154 Title

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

And yes Dirrell and Ward did duck each other.

Your hero ducked Ward, period. Everybody knows this, too late to limit the damage now.

[pistol whip]

and if you're really under the impression that CW's don't drain the opponent, then why does Team Pacquiao go through the trouble to make a fight at a CW in the first place?

yeah only an idiot might use the CW= weight drained excuse

but if the catchweight made no difference .. why would Team Pac use them?

Because it limits how much Manny is gonna be outweighed by come fight night since weigh ins are not held the same day as the fight dur dur dur!

[Cash Cow]

Hey, did you ever send me the link or source that indicated Manny agreed to full OSDT for a fight with Floyd??

send that please

[deejd]

Yout think he makes those decisions?

So Pacquiao makes them?

[hitking]

dude you are chatting ****. morales, marquez and barrera are bonified hofs, and were or near prime when pac fought them. they are better than anyone on Floyds resume. the featherweight round robin will go down in history and will be remebered like the duran,leanord,hearns, hagler round robin of the 80s.

pac beat marquez fair. It was a close fight but he got the kd. The fight was a classic. All due respect to hernandez,castillo and corrales but they are no where near the level of mab,mar,mor. Your the one being biased son.

Pac fought Morales in the middle of a 1-5 streak. His first fight with him, which he lost, Morales was coming off a loss to Barerra. His rematch and rubbermatch were sandwiched between a losided ass thrashing to Zahir Raheem and a clear loss to David Diaz. Exactly how is beating someone who's losing badly to C Class competition a great win for an ATG liek Pac?

As for Barerra, how soon people forget. Yeah, Barerra was P4P at the time. But let's not act like he was some unbeatable force. As I remember, Junior Jones kicked his ass a lot worse than Pac did, twice. And he did it long before Pac. Just because Barerra beat up an overrated Hamed and had a couple classic fights with Morales doesn't erase that. HOF'r, absolutely. More dangerous than a "Chico" Corrales who was killing everyone, I think not.

As for JMM, I made my arguement on that one already. I don't think you'll find a single person that watched both those fights that came away feing Pac was the superior fighter. But I think we can agree that everyone who watched Mayweather-Marquez came away knowing that JMM didn't belong in the same boxing ring as Floyd Joy Mayweather Jr., SON.

[deejd]

And????????????


Explain to me how a catchweight is a bad thing?

You sound like JRosales right now. Your riding of Pacquiao is only rivaled by that guy.

[RSBonos]

I'm personally judging Pacquaio from the standpoint that he's supposed to be better than Mayweather. And if he's better than Mayweather, I have no interest in seeing him fight a guy that will be nearly 40 and that managed to win about 30 seconds of his fight with Mayweather what will be a year before fighting Pac. I also have no interest in seeing the so-called P4P King fight a guy that was very fortunate to get a draw with Sergio friggin Mora. I'm not one of these people that expects a superfight every time out. I mean, I know the history of boxing. And regardless of what ESPN Classic tells you, Ali didn't fight Foreman and Frazier every time out. Everyone is entitled to a gimmie here and there. Problem I'm having with Pac is that his entire 2010 was gimmies. And now, he's continuing with his gimmies into 2011. At what point is the so-called P4P King gonna step up and fight a real P4P elite?

Like I said, it's not a great fight. But lets not exaggerate, Clottey and Margarito were not gimmies, in so much that they were two of most dangerous opponents that Pac could have fought at WW (with Mosley and Mayweather being the other two). Pac beat them in such one sided fights that it has completely negated the 'they are too big for him' factor, so that's why the Mosley fight isn't great because even his superior punching power won't make any difference.

But it boils down to narrative. Marquez has the history and Berto is undefeated...however, can people honestly say that they have a much better chance then this faded version of Mosley? Bottom line is that those guys and even Bradley/Alexander have almost no chance. The Mosley fight will look bad because Pac will beat the hell out of a fan favorite fighter, but since Shane wants the paycheck let him have it.

In two years time Pac will have fought Marquez III and Berto, he has already cleared up the rest of the division.

[deejd]

Because most casual fans and apperently the mainstream media don't give a *** what weight the fight is held at.

In fact those that are against a catchweight in this fight cant even explain why a catchweight is a bad thing.

Can you explain why Pacquiao himself said he wouldn't exceed 147?

[Cash Cow]

it's ok because it adds up to his legacy if he fights and beat bigger guys...but if has to ask for catchweight he's opening himself up for criticisms. like what happened after the margarito fight, he said he's done fighting beyond 147 so why fight shane at 148 for a 154 title? i'm a pacfan but his bad decisions are just feeding up the trolls known as *****s.

beating "BIGGER" guys who has C-class skill doesnt mean much, I'm sorry. Clottey was bigger,..he had no belt ....Margarito was bigger and he had no belt. Whats the point of fighting guys just cuz they are bigger. Its apparent that BIGGER guys vs Manny is easy for Manny as they are slower and not as skilled. They have no defense and pathetic footwork.

And why not fight the "BIGGER" Martinez? or is that too big?

[fcastro1]

Pac fought Morales in the middle of a 1-5 streak. His first fight with him, which he lost, Morales was coming off a loss to Barerra. His rematch and rubbermatch were sandwiched between a losided ass thrashing to Zahir Raheem and a clear loss to David Diaz. Exactly how is beating someone who's losing badly to C Class competition a great win for an ATG liek Pac?

As for Barerra, how soon people forget. Yeah, Barerra was P4P at the time. But let's not act like he was some unbeatable force. As I remember, Junior Jones kicked his ass a lot worse than Pac did, twice. And he did it long before Pac. Just because Barerra beat up an overrated Hamed and had a couple classic fights with Morales doesn't erase that. HOF'r, absolutely. More dangerous than a "Chico" Corrales who was killing everyone, I think not.

As for JMM, I made my arguement on that one already. I don't think you'll find a single person that watched both those fights that came away feing Pac was the superior fighter. But I think we can agree that everyone who watched Mayweather-Marquez came away knowing that JMM didn't belong in the same boxing ring as Floyd Joy Mayweather Jr., SON.

i dont know where to start with this mess. morales put up the best performance of his life against pac. A fighter that can fight that good is no where near past prime, and he proved it in the secon fight where half way he was still in it.

After junior jones barrera became a more complete fighter and was on his best winning streak before he met pac. Lets be real p4p barrera ****s all over corrales. You are one of those *****s that thinks a loss equates to being past prime. Absolute nonsense.

How can you compare the marquez that fought pac and the one that fought maywaether. Thats a sign of ***** thinking right there. pac got a win versus a hof fighter in his prime and in his weight class. Floyd has not fought fighters of the calibre of those 3 and in their natural weight class. now lets be real here.