148 is too low, should be at least 150.
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Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P View Postafraid so mate
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Originally posted by eltoro View PostWhen you hear Junior Middleweight Title you know the weight limit or 154 vice versa etc., I could have easily written Junior Middleweight Title but my lazy ass fingers didn't wanna type that much so 154 pound made it easier for me. So its ok to say Pac beat Mosley for the Junior Middleweight Title But at the catchweight of 148lbs not at the division limit which is at 154lbs. Many of his followers don't understand the weight limits that are in relation with the titles since they are not full boxing fans and argue hes the best for going up in weight to another division but don't understand how lame it gets after a while not allowing the other fighter to come in at the division limit. Yea its not his fault the other guy wants a big payday but why do a catchweight knowing you can't beat the guy at his division limit and stay in your own damn division and defend or unify your title.
Your forgetting that these fighters that Pac is "supposiably" draining all have one common charecteristic. They all outweight pac anwhere from 10-20 pounds come fight night. Please name me a fighter that has fought with that kind of disadvantage in the ring! Name one outside of the HW division! Thats why this whole weight limit nonsense falls on it's face. Henry Armstrong fought guys at the full weight limit because the weigh in was held the same day of the fight so he was actually fighting someone who was gonna weight that much when they stepped into the ring. Pac fights guys that have a full 24 hours to rehydrate and blow up 17 more pounds. Thats why the catchweight argument it nothing but crap because pac isn't even fighting guys who are even jinior middleweights come fight night. He's fighting a super middleweight in his last fight for christ sake!!!
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So allow Manny to hold captive the JMW title by claiming a "successful" defense vs Mosley by capping a 148lb limit. That's not giving 154lb fighters a chance to be 154lb fighters. Same thing vs Cotto at WW. He siding give Cotto the opportunity to defend his WW crown as a WW. On paper it will look good as Pacman defending the JMW title. But in reality, he kept Margarito and Mosley from weighing in as solid JMW. Pacman can weigh in at 148 all he wants, but he should letter his opponents be who they are and not be forced to his team's sub divisions.
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Originally posted by pistol whip View PostI'll give you Mosely it's a terriable fight but everyone else pac has fought it's the same story. The fighter is "conviniently" washed up after they lose to pac, it's the same argument i've been hearing since he beat marco Antonio barrera the first time and it holds little water when before the fight nobody was calling the guy washed up to begin with.
But to address the other fights OSDT is unpresedented in the sport of boxing why does Pac get held to a higher standard above all other fighters when it comes to drug testing? mayweather SR is hardley a reason.
Martinez cant go under 155 pounds, the man said it himself on HBO and come on man you seriously didn't think Pac was gonna continue to go up and up in weight did you? So if hypothetically he beats martinez whats next? Are you gonna say he's ducking Bute?
He fought Marquez twice already and as much as i wanna see third fight with my boy marquez Im not gonna say pac is ducking him when they fought twice already. Makes no ***ing sense and for berto it's ***ing true nobody knows him and you tend to forget that clotty was a last minute throw him in there fight because the fight they really wanted (Floyd) fell apart. Top Rank had a date reserved they needed the fight on that day and who easier than clotty to get a legitimate top 5 welterweight in their with Pac with only a month and a half to promote the thing.
It's real easy to make an argument against pac when you forget all the details!
The OSDT is just something the Mayweathers requested because they believe that if someone small like Pac comes up to a bigger division and is unstoppable has to be on something. Its what they think.
I didn't say for Pac to go up in weight, he can fight for the Junior Middleweight Title and go in at any weight he wants as long as both fighters come in at the division limit of 154lbs. He weighed 144.something at the weigh in of the Margs fight having a catchweight limit of 150lbs. If not then he should stay in the welterweight division.
Ive seen all his latest fights, know all the facts, details etc. But i would be glad to see him fight someone that has not lost within their last 4 fights, maybe is undefeated and he take his 0 away, or a Champion to unify at least.
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Originally posted by TyrantT316 View PostSo allow Manny to hold captive the JMW title by claiming a "successful" defense vs Mosley by capping a 148lb limit. That's not giving 154lb fighters a chance to be 154lb fighters. Same thing vs Cotto at WW. He siding give Cotto the opportunity to defend his WW crown as a WW. On paper it will look good as Pacman defending the JMW title. But in reality, he kept Margarito and Mosley from weighing in as solid JMW. Pacman can weigh in at 148 all he wants, but he should letter his opponents be who they are and not be forced to his team's sub divisions.
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Arum and probably Koncz are really screwing with Pac's legacy. If it was up to Pac I actually believe he would be fighting to unify his WBO title with Berto's. Arum pretty much already told the hardcore Boxing fans to screw off and that only the casual fans matter.
Arum and Koncz
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FIGHT MARTINEZ AT 154LBS YOU COWARD!
*******s are going to come in and say how can he be a coward because Martinez is soooo much bigger??, no it's because Martinez is actually GOOD
And yes Dirrell and Ward did duck each other.
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