Roy Jones didn't make history! Bob Fitsimmonz record remains unbroken!

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  • Dirt E Gomez
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    #41
    Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
    ******...

    To much of a risk? That's what made him a lil *****!
    Ahhahahaha, by your standards. While it might be lackluster for us, it's still extremely profitable for Jones and it helped him further his career to some extent.

    You think fighters of the past wouldn't have done it. The money wasn't as big, the fights weren't as tough, and there weren't as much money involved in the sport. Old champions would do the same as modern champions. Back then it was a sport, now it's a business. Switch any of the fighter's time periods and they'd flow with the stream.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
      Ahhahahaha, by your standards. While it might be lackluster for us, it's still extremely profitable for Jones and it helped him further his career to some extent.

      You think fighters of the past wouldn't have done it. The money wasn't as big, the fights weren't as tough, and there weren't as much money involved in the sport. Old champions would do the same as modern champions. Back then it was a sport, now it's a business. Switch any of the fighter's time periods and they'd flow with the stream.
      That's why the fighters that care about money will never be known as greats but just overrated...

      look at holyfield, morales, Thomas hearns, hagler, etc.

      They are greats...they care for the sport...not the business

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        #43
        Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
        That's why the fighters that care about money will never be known as greats but just overrated...

        look at holyfield, morales, Thomas hearns, hagler, etc.

        They are greats...they care for the sport...not the business
        Fighters who care about money will still be known as great, you're crazy if you say otherwise. Many fighters care about the legacy they leave and the money they make along the way. I'm not suggesting Roy was simply fighting for money since if that were the case he could have stayed at Light Heavyweight and fough possibly or Benn/Eubanks in Britain and made a decent amount of Change regardless of the outcome.

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          #44
          Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
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          This is what happened when he stepped up his competition...

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          what do u mean b stepped up, like the way he stepped up to hopkins, harding, woods, and please dont forget he beat tarver the first time...
          why do you continually attempt to discredit rjj?
          i know you dont like him, but hes both skilled and accomplished

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            #45
            I don't know why I haven't mentioned the fact that he's comming back to fight Tarver! He certainly doesn't need the money. He wants to redeem himself and prove to all the haters that even an elderly RJJ will still knock the **** out of his opponents.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
              It's a good accomplishment, but it's a discgrace to compare that to Bob Fitsimmonz..

              Bob Fitsimmonz
              FITZSIMMONS! F-I-T-Z-S-I-M-M-O-N-S. Okay?!

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                #47
                Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
                That's why the fighters that care about money will never be known as greats but just overrated...

                look at holyfield, morales, Thomas hearns, hagler, etc.

                They are greats...they care for the sport...not the business
                Oh, grow up! All boxers are in the sport for money, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
                  Bob Fitsimmonz was the first fighter to go from middleweight champion to heavyweight champion in history...

                  Then Billy Conn fought Joe Louis at 169...and almost managed to beat the greatest HW of all time...

                  RJJ moved up in weight...instead of being forced to fight ONE champion, he got to choose between 4 of them....

                  He chose the biggest bum...

                  If there was always 4 champions in each weight class this record would've been broken over 70 years ago.

                  Nevada passed a law to legalize boxing in order to permit this bout.
                  A Saint Patrick's Day program. Wyatt Earp and four other men with six-shooters were in Corbett's corner; an equal number of gunmen were in Fitzsimmons's corner to ensure "fair play." This fight was marred by a "long count" when Fitzsimmons, weakened by body blows, wrapped his arms around Corbett and slid to the floor, resting on his right knee and keeping his balance by clinging to the champion's leg. Corbett dared not break the grip of his rival for fear of fouling in the eyes of Fitzsimmons's seconds. So he called for Referee Siler to break Fitzsimmons from his knee. Siler politely asked Fitzsimmons to let go, which the boxer finally did after a few more seconds. Then Siler started the count. It was estimated this all took 15 seconds or longer.

                  Also, he won the title from a undersized Corbett. Corbett weighed only 184 pounds at fight time. Fitz was 167. Do the math and thats only a 17 pound difference. RJJ on the other hand fought a legitimate Heavyweight in Ruiz. Ruiz weighed in at 226 pounds to a 196 pound Jones.

                  You know where still cool greatest, but RJJ is the true first.
                  And the whole cobb thing. COBB LOST. End of discussion. So what he came close. Only time CLOSE applies is with Horseshoe's and Hand grenades

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                  • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
                    It's a good accomplishment, but it's a discgrace to compare that to Bob Fitsimmonz..

                    Bob Fitsimmonz defeated the #1 heavyweight champion in the world...

                    Jones could've fought the best in Lennox Lewis...but he chose John Ruiz...

                    It was obvious that Lennox Lewis was the #1 heavyweight in the world..
                    I mean come on...

                    If people had this kind of chances, this record would have been broken SO long ago...
                    James Corbet weighed in at 184. Thats how much Cruiserweights weigh today

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                    • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ThaGreatest_NK
                      Did you not read the ****in post man?

                      Billy Conn, who fought JOE LOUIS, greatest heavyweight champion of the world....almost beat Joe Louis...but if he had the same chance Jone had to fight terrible HW like Ruiz...

                      then this record would've been broken at least 60 years ago...

                      Ironically Toney and Jones both brok the record in less than 2 years apart

                      Jones fought a paper champion in Ruiz...
                      Joe Louis weighed in at 199 1/2. Ruiz weighed 225. Thats a big difference.

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