Roy Jones didn't make history! Bob Fitsimmonz record remains unbroken!

[Dirt E Gomez]

and Carlos Maussa is a champion...

but today being a champ doesn't mean much like it used to.

Granted there are more title holders nowadays with all of the ABC belts, however... the modern heavyweight would still kill heavyweights from 50+ years ago.

[Tha Greatest]

Granted there are more title holders nowadays with all of the ABC belts, however... the modern heavyweight would still kill heavyweights from 50+ years ago.

Ya, John Ruiz would KO Joe Louis senseless..

RJJ will KO Rocky Marciano..

[Dirt E Gomez]

Ya, John Ruiz would KO Joe Louis senseless..

RJJ will KO Rocky Marciano..

My bad, I should've said 65+ years ago... even though you're discussing a feat that was done like 90+ years ago by Bobby.

[MrUnstoppable]

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This is what happened when he stepped up his competition...
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Do you enjoy being known for a lack of credibility?

[hollister]

Granted there are more title holders nowadays with all of the ABC belts, however... the modern heavyweight would still kill heavyweights from 50+ years ago.

Do you think LL would have killed Max Baer?

Joe Louis?

It doesn't matter which Lewis we're talking about, the

wilder young one or the older cautious one lol

[Tha Greatest]

My bad, I should've said 65+ years ago... even though you're discussing a feat that was done like 90+ years ago by Bobby.

I know what you mean...but that was a whole different era and they didnt have all the boxing tech we got today you know...

My main point is, about Billy Conn, who almost beat Joe Louis, something Roy never would've done..

Billy Conn>Roy Jones Jr.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Do you think LL would have killed Max Baer?

Joe Louis?

It doesn't matter which Lewis we're talking about, the

wilder young one or the older cautious one lol

Despite the fact that I don't really like LL he could. He weighed in around 240-260 for most of his fights. Louis would simply be too light and too short for him despite the fact that he's much more talented. Same thing for many of the past heavyweights from yesteryear.

[Dirt E Gomez]

I know what you mean...but that was a whole different era and they didnt have all the boxing tech we got today you know...

My main point is, about Billy Conn, who almost beat Joe Louis, something Roy never would've done..

Billy Conn>Roy Jones Jr.

Billy Conn, while what he did was big, probably wouldn't have beaten RJJ, or even come close to it. He was ahead on 2 of the scorecards before he was knocked out with 2 rounds left prior to his loss. The fight wasn't decided... it wasn't like was was robbed. While I like Conn and what he did is impressive, RJJ will still be remembered as the better fighter.

[riz]

Bob Fitsimmonz was the first fighter to go from middleweight champion to heavyweight champion in history...

Then Billy Conn fought Joe Louis at 169...and almost managed to beat the greatest HW of all time...

RJJ moved up in weight...instead of being forced to fight ONE champion, he got to choose between 4 of them....

He chose the biggest bum...

If there was always 4 champions in each weight class this record would've been broken over 70 years ago.

well dam its not his fault theres 4 champions......


and obviously he chose the biggest bum, he gets a huge payday, and gets himself in the record books. DK doesn't give a **** bout ruiz, he wanted byrd to be good, he wouldn't put byrd with jones, too much of a risk

[Tha Greatest]

well dam its not his fault theres 4 champions......


and obviously he chose the biggest bum, he gets a huge payday, and gets himself in the record books. DK doesn't give a **** bout ruiz, he wanted byrd to be good, he wouldn't put byrd with jones, too much of a risk

******...

To much of a risk? That's what made him a lil *****!