ESPN Dan Rafael's 140 division ranking [Dec. 14th, 2010]

[Kagami Taiga]

LOL. Everybody knows that Kotelnik beat Alexander! Only Alexander, his team, and the 3 ringside judges that scored it think otherwise.



He probably took Kendall Holt's soul, not Peterson's though.

Witter was already past-prime so I don't think he took Witter's soul.

nope, i had it a pretty even fight. alexander went up against a difficult style and had a bad night. it happens, just like it happened to khan for whatever reason against lesser fighters.

[Pu$$yKiller]

nope, i had it a pretty even fight. alexander went up against a difficult style and had a bad night. it happens, just like it happened to khan for whatever reason against lesser fighters.

Read my post and you have your reason.

135... is 135.

Pacquaio struggled at 130 VS JMM, but at 147? Hell no.

Reply to my post on the resume too.

[dvb]

the guys a total fool.awful journalist.

all of his rankings are soo wrong.

for me khans opposition of maidana,malignaggi and kotelnik as his latest fights and how he fought them and beat them all makes him top.

and then he ranked ward and bute above froch,but froch has had the tougher fights,with impressive wins,and fought away from home several times.

frochs list of past few fights reads:

pascal,
taylor,
dirrell,
kessler
arbraham.

only losing close decision to kessler and just winnning vs dirrel,but owning pascal abraham and taylor in entertaining fashion!.
now go refresh yourselves of bute or wards recent form and opposition!.

he has mayweather as top weltwerweight,just by beating an old inactive mosley,a light welter hatton and a lightweight marquez,judah who lost to several people badly.

how can someone so inactive as floyd be ranked so highly!.

what a bafoon tht fat dan is,pfft.

[Kagami Taiga]

Read my post and you have your reason.

135... is 135.

Pacquaio struggled at 130 VS JMM, but at 147? Hell no.

Reply to my post on the resume too.

i read it and i think the reasons make sense, but at the end of the day, it happened. thats my point. u cant write a fighter off after a bad night no matter how ppl on this site seem to think so.

[£-4-£]

the guys a total fool.awful journalist.

all of his rankings are soo wrong.

for me khans opposition of maidana,malignaggi and kotelnik as his latest fights and how he fought them and beat them all makes him top.

and then he ranked ward and bute above froch,but froch has had the tougher fights,with impressive wins,and fought away from home several times.

frochs list of past few fights reads:

pascal,
taylor,
dirrell,
kessler
arbraham.

only losing close decision to kessler and just winnning vs dirrel,but owning pascal abraham and taylor in entertaining fashion!.
now go refresh yourselves of bute or wards recent form and opposition!.

he has mayweather as top weltwerweight,just by beating an old inactive mosley,a light welter hatton and a lightweight marquez,judah who lost to several people badly.

how can someone so inactive as floyd be ranked so highly!.

what a bafoon tht fat dan is,pfft.

I scored the Kessler-Froch fight a draw. I therefore have Froch top-10 P4P with wins over Pascal (now the LHW lineal champ), Taylor, Dirrell and Abraham, and a draw with Kessler.

[-Spinal-]

Witter was already past-prime so I don't think he took Witter's soul.

Strange he conveniently was past prime against Bradley, when his last loss before that was against Judah in the year 2000. He was on a 21[17KO's]-0 run coming in to the Bradley fight. Bradley himself was 21-0 but obviously lacking in the KO department. The fight was a close SD. It was a good fight coming in. Both were 21-0 basically. Witter was 21-0 after Judah, and Bradley was 21-0 in his career. Nobody was past prime. Witter lost to the better fighter.

[Kagami Taiga]

Read my post and you have your reason.

135... is 135.

Pacquaio struggled at 130 VS JMM, but at 147? Hell no.

Reply to my post on the resume too.

as far as the resumes go, im someone who thinks that hindsight is always 20/20. who knows what happens to any fighter after a fight??? i dont put stock in it. at the time a fighter fights them, who they are and where they rank is wat matters. afterwards, who knows?? fighters get old overnight.

bradley's resume in the last 3 years is the most impressive thing at 140 rite now. if he beats alexander, its all that much more better. if alexander beats bradley, then he has the biggest name on his resume. but i wouldnt think that puts him ahead of khan.

so theres no way i think beating maidana puts khan ahead of bradley.

[Pu$$yKiller]

i read it and i think the reasons make sense, but at the end of the day, it happened. thats my point. u cant write a fighter off after a bad night no matter how ppl on this site seem to think so.

Yes that is true you can not, but this is the 140 ranking, and that fight was at 135.

Is Adamek a bad fighter at HW because he lost to Chad Dawson at 175?

Heck at HW Adamek beat Arreloa.

To rank a guy 2 years on is ludicrous in my mind, but of coruse you can not ignore it.

2 years in boxing is like 10 years in normal life. A bxoers prime is 5 years usually if that.

If it is the case that a abd night counts so much, then Kotelnik beat Alexander. I still give him the win, but maybe he shouldn't.

[Kagami Taiga]

Yes that is true you can not, but this is the 140 ranking, and that fight was at 135.

Is Adamek a bad fighter at HW because he lost to Chad Dawson at 175?

Heck at HW Adamek beat Arreloa.

To rank a guy 2 years on is ludicrous in my mind, but of coruse you can not ignore it.

2 years in boxing is like 10 years in normal life. A bxoers prime is 5 years usually if that.

If it is the case that a abd night counts so much, then Kotelnik beat Alexander. I still give him the win, but maybe he shouldn't.

i didnt use his loss to de rank him at jww. i used his loss to show that its dumb to write alexander off after a tough fight with koltenik. different objective.

[Pu$$yKiller]

as far as the resumes go, im someone who thinks that hindsight is always 20/20. who knows what happens to any fighter after a fight??? i dont put stock in it. at the time a fighter fights them, who they are and where they rank is wat matters. afterwards, who knows?? fighters get old overnight.

bradley's resume in the last 3 years is the most impressive thing at 140 rite now. if he beats alexander, its all that much more better. if alexander beats bradley, then he has the biggest name on his resume. but i wouldnt think that puts him ahead of khan.

so theres no way i think beating maidana puts khan ahead of bradley.

OK so Witter is a good win. Lostto Zab but still a good fighter.

Peterson did not beat anyone so not a good win. Green.

Cherry lost plenty, and plentyyy of times, and a bad win.

Holt already lost to Torres. He also hasn't beaten many that are good.

Who else then?

What they did before was not great.