ESPN Dan Rafael's 140 division ranking [Dec. 14th, 2010]

[Pu$$yKiller]

i didnt use his loss to de rank him at jww. i used his loss to show that its dumb to write alexander off after a tough fight with koltenik. different objective.

I see, well one was 2 years ago, and one was in his last fight.

Which one is likely to apply to a recent ranking?

[Pu$$yKiller]

as far as the resumes go, im someone who thinks that hindsight is always 20/20. who knows what happens to any fighter after a fight??? i dont put stock in it. at the time a fighter fights them, who they are and where they rank is wat matters. afterwards, who knows?? fighters get old overnight.

bradley's resume in the last 3 years is the most impressive thing at 140 rite now. if he beats alexander, its all that much more better. if alexander beats bradley, then he has the biggest name on his resume. but i wouldnt think that puts him ahead of khan.

so theres no way i think beating maidana puts khan ahead of bradley.

OK so Witter is a good win. Lostto Zab but still a good fighter.

Peterson did not beat anyone so not a good win. Green.

Cherry lost plenty, and plentyyy of times, and a bad win.

Holt already lost to Torres. He also hasn't beaten many that are good.

Who else then?

What they did before was not great.

[Kagami Taiga]

I see, well one was 2 years ago, and one was in his last fight.

Which one is likely to apply to a recent ranking?

it means alexander should be ranked somewhere between 3-5. khan is #2. lol, i do think khan is firmly #2. i just dont see any argument for him being #1.

[Pu$$yKiller]

it means alexander should be ranked somewhere between 3-5. khan is #2. lol, i do think khan is firmly #2. i just dont see any argument for him being #1.

Bradley 1.
Khan 2.
Kotelnik 3.
Alexnder 4.

In my books since Kotelnik beat Alexander IMO

Yes I agree Bradley is 1 and Khan a fixed 2.

Not sure why we arguing LOL.

[Kagami Taiga]

OK so Witter is a good win. Lostto Zab but still a good fighter.

Peterson did not beat anyone so not a good win. Green.

Cherry lost plenty, and plentyyy of times, and a bad win.

Holt already lost to Torres. He also hasn't beaten many that are good.

Who else then?

What they did before was not great.

ok...so lets do this, who did maidana beat? koltenik?? those ARE khans best wins and yet, they really didnt beat anbody either.

[King Ju-Ju]

1. bradley
2. khan
3. alexander
4. kotelnik
5. maidana
6. ortiz
7. peterson
8. judah

[Pu$$yKiller]

ok...so lets do this, who did maidana beat? koltenik?? those ARE khans best wins and yet, they really didnt beat anbody either.

Kotelnik beat Alexnder IMO. Who was ranked 2 at the time.

Maidnaa beat Ortiz yes, still green, but a close fight with Kotelnik who just beat Alexnder in my eyes.

Kotelnik and Maidana beat Witter at the time Alex beat him, both beat Urango, both beat Peterson and both beat Cherry.

Infact Witter beat Kotelnik already, but on a robberry, a clear cut one too.

Both Kotelnik and Maidana are in prime.

Paulie Mallagi can beat Urango IMO, already beat Cherry, may beat Witter.

Khan's opponents can beat more of Bradley and Alenxer's.

[Kagami Taiga]

Kotelnik beat Alexnder IMO. Who was ranked 2 at the time.

Maidnaa beat Ortiz yes, still green, but a close fight with Kotelnik who just beat Alexnder in my eyes.

Kotelnik and Maidana beat Witter at the time Alex beat him, both beat Urango, both beat Peterson and both beat Cherry.

Infact Witter beat Kotelnik already, but on a robberry, a clear cut one too.

Both Kotelnik and Maidana are in prime.

Paulie Mallagi can beat Urango IMO, already beat Cherry, may beat Witter.

Khan's opponents can beat more of Bradley and Alenxer's.

but when khan fought koltenik all he had was that controversial loss to witter, amirite???i still think he derw with alexander. its not like he did enough to win that fight, but the fight was close, it wasnt a robbery no matter how u score it.

maidana's only good win came against an ortiz that just drew with peterson. and he had a close fight with koltenik. see my point??? maidana and koltenik havent really accomplished that much either. u can say they could beat this person or that person, but i dont see how u can pick apart a resume like that.

[Pu$$yKiller]

Just wodnering if you agree that Khan's opponents, Kotelnik, Maidana and Mallignaggi are more likely to beat Bradley's opponent Peterson, Witter and Cherry, and Alexnders opponent Witter, Urango and Corley?

[Pu$$yKiller]

but when khan fought koltenik all he had was that controversial loss to witter, amirite???i still think he derw with alexander. its not like he did enough to win that fight, but the fight was close, it wasnt a robbery no matter how u score it.

maidana's only good win came against an ortiz that just drew with peterson. and he had a close fight with koltenik. see my point??? maidana and koltenik havent really accomplished that much either. u can say they could beat this person or that person, but i dont see how u can pick apart a resume like that.

Yes it is true that at the time, they may not have many names, but what has happened after has helped added to what resume these fighters have.

I mean Alexnder had Witter and Urango who were not on that bad a lost. Not bad resume.

Bradley has Peterson who is a true nobody. Ortiz beat him but got a draw and Ortiz got sparked by Maidnaa. Witter was a good win but lsot to Zab.

At least Maidana and Kotelnik and Paulie had 2 losses or less like the above.

The rest have had many more.

Those 3 guys beat those 2 guys IMO, and witter is the only one that may give trouble to them, well the Witter that didn;t quit VS Bradley.