Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez-Sebastian Zbik is Ordered By The WBC

[dorruel2.0]

You understand the sanctioning bodies have their own ratings right? They don't go by third party ratings right?

And, I am still waiting for to answer my question on what title that Pac was able to keep without being stripped by not fighting a mandatory?

wbo "ww" belt.
And yeah i do understand but dude hasnt even has his belt for a year and the wbo, and now the wbc are going to strip him. Im pissed because well never have 1 champ per division again...ever. Martinez has hopkins lineal status with the ring belt, so i guess thats all that matters.
**** abc belts

[dorruel2.0]

Williams was not the #1 contender for WBC

Simple

i guess not, but he shouldv been w/o a doubt

[-Kev-]

What is wrong with that fight?

You putting sechenko, Zaveck, and Aydin in the same level as Dzinziruk. Aydin is not even in the level of Jo Jo Dan

You putting Cotto in the same level as Floyd and Pac.

There is nothing wrong with Cotto-Dzinziruk is a fight that should happen to determine supremacy at 154. Just cuz you not familiar with Dzinziurk doesn't make dude bum or a bad fighter.

Yes he earned it, but he was saying Dzinziruk who for awhile now. Is not like something new... But, the same thing he is saying, pretty much Floyd and Pac are saying...Why fight Martinez what does he bring? His not on there level of popularity so why should they fight him? Since is OK for Martinez not to fight Pirog or Dzinziruk?

They are NO NAMES. Only me, you and other hardcore boxing fans know them. These are fights that HBO will not buy. You're missing that point here. They're all no names, they are all on the same level of no-nameness. Not trying to stick them together as same talent. Just saying an example of some known names vs no names. If Martinez has to fight some Zbik[who?] guy, then let's have all other boxers fight no names, because that's what will "save boxing" right? A product of the same thing that's killing boxing[sanctioning bodies]. Do what Floyd did and say **** belts, just fight the big names with no fucking belts. **** all these belts, and sanctioning fees and no name Europeans.

This is coming from a fucking Sergio Martinez hater.

[PRBOXINGCOTTO]

Martinez should beat this guy the figjt wolak then cintron

[-Kev-]

Berto v Aydin is a fight I wanted to see for 2 years.

Berto is ducking Turkish fighters.

true story

How about we have all the no names fight each other and the winners get a big fight against the known guys. That's how it always was. What happened to earning a big fight?

Have Sanchenko vs Zaveck, winner faces Aydin, winner faces Berto.

Make a WW Super 6. Do something about these no names, put them on more pay per views. Like damn, let the fans know them. Zbik? Pirog? Dzinwho?

[jrosales13]

wbo "ww" belt.
And yeah i do understand but dude hasnt even has his belt for a year and the wbo, and now the wbc are going to strip him. Im pissed because well never have 1 champ per division again...ever. Martinez has hopkins lineal status with the ring belt, so i guess thats all that matters.
**** abc belts

Who is Pac WBO WW mandatory?

But, you need to understand also that the WBC has nothing to do with what the WBO or any other sanctioning body does and vice versa...

Another thing you need to understand that is not how long you have had that title for but how long the mandatory you get me?

You saying that Martinez hasn't had the belt for a year but how long has Zbik been a mandatory? Lets say Martinez fights Lee and losses. Should Lee not fight Zbik because he just won the belt he hasn't had the belt for a year?

Yes, of course The Ring and lineal title is all that matters. More so than the sanctioning bodies.

[-Kev-]

Just because he is 35, he shouldnt defend against Mandatories?

If the mandatories are worth it, then yeah go ahead. If HBO/Showtime wants them.

Like Marquez-Katsidis was an exciting match-up mandatory for Marquez. But Zbik the unknown featherfist, I can see HBO/Showtime turning this fight down.

I treat every fighter the same even if I don't like them. I say Martinez is 35, just look for those big money fights. If I was a 35 year old boxer, coming off tough fights against Cintron and Williams, and I knocked out Williams, i'd want to finally get some money fights rolling in.

Now let's say he was young like 28-33, i'd understand him still needing to make a name for himself and fighting mandatories. He has nothing to prove against these unknown foreign fighters.

[dorruel2.0]

Who is Pac WBO WW mandatory?

But, you need to understand also that the WBC has nothing to do with what the WBO or any other sanctioning body does and vice versa...

Another thing you need to understand that is not how long you have had that title for but how long the mandatory you get me?

You saying that Martinez hasn't had the belt for a year but how long has Zbik been a mandatory? Lets say Martinez fights Lee and losses. Should Lee not fight Zbik because he just won the belt he hasn't had the belt for a year?

Yes, of course The Ring and lineal title is all that matters. More so than the sanctioning bodies.

nah i do understand, i guess im in a bit of denial, you speak the truth and i just dont want to accept that this is what my favorite sport has become. Im kinda young so i dont know exactly how everything was back in the day, but it sure seems better than this mess we have going on. Somebodys gotta clean this **** up
weather we like it or not. Boxing needs a dana white

[jrosales13]

They are NO NAMES. Only me, you and other hardcore boxing fans know them. These are fights that HBO will not buy. You're missing that point here. They're all no names, they are all on the same level of no-nameness. Not trying to stick them together as same talent. Just saying an example of some known names vs no names. If Martinez has to fight some Zbik[who?] guy, then let's have all other boxers fight no names, because that's what will "save boxing" right? A product of the same thing that's killing boxing[sanctioning bodies]. Do what Floyd did and say **** belts, just fight the big names with no fucking belts. **** all these belts, and sanctioning fees and no name Europeans.

This is coming from a fucking Sergio Martinez hater.

I don't care who this is coming from. It is a very dumb statement...

Is like saying somebody like Dzinziruk has to earn a shot against somebody like Berto who earned not a damn thing pretty much had everything giving to him... And, this is the way it should work? Fuck that...

If you earn your spot then you should get a shot...Fuck that whole "who are you" ****...That is what is wrong with boxing now with everybody having that diva-like attitude... I get it when SRR, SRL, Oscar, Floyd, and Pac have it... Because, they actually brought/bring in crazy numbers. But, if you can't do their numbers then you should not have that kind of attitude...

Forrest(RIP) had that attitude against Martinez and it ****** and that is why it took Martinez to get here. Oscar De la Hoya said the same thing about Martinez. But, that was Oscar you could see where he was coming from. But, Forrest? And, now Martinez. I get it if you want the big money. But, when you realize that is not coming don't act like a diva and start saying "who are you"

[jrosales13]

If the mandatories are worth it, then yeah go ahead. If HBO/Showtime wants them.

Like Marquez-Katsidis was an exciting match-up mandatory for Marquez. But Zbik the unknown featherfist, I can see HBO/Showtime turning this fight down.

I treat every fighter the same even if I don't like them. I say Martinez is 35, just look for those big money fights. If I was a 35 year old boxer, coming off tough fights against Cintron and Williams, and I knocked out Williams, i'd want to finally get some money fights rolling in.

Now let's say he was young like 28-33, i'd understand him still needing to make a name for himself and fighting mandatories. He has nothing to prove against these unknown foreign fighters.

He has nothing to prove against unknown foreign fighters but has something to prove against unknown domestic fighters like Andy Lee? Gotcha....