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  • medi8r
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    #151
    Originally posted by medi8r
    Huh? Do some backtracking on the thread. What me and you are talking about is Pac meeting Martinez at 155 for Martinez' MW Title and Pac to further his legacy by winning a title in a 10th division. You stated that Marg and Martinez were the same size. At the same time you thought it ridiculous for Martinez to challenge Pac at 155. All I did was question your reasoning. If Marg and Martinez are the same size as you conceded, why is it ridiculous for martinez to request a 155 catchweight. ESPECIALLY considering he's putting up his MW title? Your answer was that Martinez would come in atleast 20 lbs heavier. Where you and I had a misunderstanding is whether it was 20 lbs heavier than Pac or 20 lbs heavier than the official weigh in of 155.

    Martinez only weighed 1lb more on fight night against Williams than Margarito did when he met Pac in the ring. That cannot be disputed. And that was after a catchweight of 158 against Williams.

    Weight isn't the issue here. Skill set is.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    • Floydiot
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      #152
      Originally posted by Floydiot
      Agree. Manny won't be on Mayweather's level. too good to be true. floyd might be swimming then.

      And surely manny wont follow floyds steps. Me too. I hate to be in jail.
      I hope Floyd prove us wrong by fighting Manny before going to Jail.

      He already proven us wrong by beating his girl first than putting his "0" on the line.

      Is that mayweather's level? It sounds he's not the best boxer to me. much more a good person either
      .

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      • American Dream
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        #153
        well how about 154 like Sergio already said he would do for Pacs belt..I mean Pac does hold a belt for that division right?

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        • puga
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          #154
          Originally posted by joseph5620
          Do you believe those fighters didn't re hydrate after the weigh in just because it was the same day? They did. And even with the same day weigh in Robinson came in 16 pounds less than Maxim. As much as 15 pounds less against Lamotta. Armstrong did the same thing. You're right it's not close to the same because no fighter today would take a chance and do that... Including Pacquiao. And he wouldn't give up 25 to 30 pounds against Martinez. Let's not exaggerate.
          its also an exaggertaion that armstrong was this the little guy beating up giants , the closest thing to actually being that was vs ceferino garcia, the weight diffrence was only 10 lbs......in all of his fight he was either a bit bigger or a bit smaller by about 3 or 4 lbs......

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          • Undefeated
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            #155
            If Martinez hadn't KO Williams like that, Sergio wouldn't even be mentioned. No one wants to fight that guy.

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            • hitking
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              #156
              Let me see if I've got a handle on Pacwh*re logic. Two weeks ago, we were kissing Pac's ass for beating a guy that was coming off a brutal KO loss to a fighter that's looked like crap every since. The logic behind the excitement was that Plasterman was 17 lbs heavier that Pac on fight night. Also, this week they were excusing the catchweight champ not wanting to give JMM a catchweight. Citing that Pac only weighed in at 144 and went up to 148 for Plasterman. And that JMM rehydrated to 145 for Katsidis. A difference of only three pounds. But, they don't want Pac to fight Martinez because he'd be outweighed by 20, which is only 3 lbs more than Margarito outweighed Pac during their fight. Therefore, 3 lbs isn't that big an innue when it comes to Pacquaio-Marquez III. But, when it comes to Pacqauio-Martinez, three pounds is all the difference in the world.

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              • LeadUppercut
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                #157
                Originally posted by medi8r
                You sir are a profound ******!
                The little ***ers are everywhere.

                They have infested this site like rodents. Excitable little ******s who know more about Manny's singing prowess than they do about his boxing ability.

                Maybe one day Manny " padded " Pacquiao will grow some balls and fight somebody with a pulse, and then those little ***tards will be gone.

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                • LeadUppercut
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Floydiot
                  I hope Floyd prove us wrong by fighting Manny before going to Jail.

                  He already proven us wrong by beating his girl first than putting his "0" on the line.

                  Is that mayweather's level? It sounds he's not the best boxer to me. much more a good person either
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                  Manny has conned you, because you are ******.

                  Oh sure, Manny sings better than Elvis, and he fights better than SRR.....
                  and yet, he will not even fight somebody from his own division without asking for a catch-weight.

                  Manny is an over-rated hype-job, and you are a ***wit

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                  • them_apples
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Ko King 212
                    It's a bad style match up. If he was old and washed up bob would have made that fight.
                    lol it has nothing to do with style, sure Marg was big but Martinez just finished ****ing up Kelly Pavlik at 160.

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                    • TheMexHurricane
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      According to Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, there is no way, under any circumstances, that he will consider a making a fight between Manny Pacquiao and WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez, at a catch-weight of 155-pounds or otherwise. Arum has a short-list of opponents for Pacquiao's next fight, which includes WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto, three division champion Shane Mosley, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez.
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                      Sergio, sign with Pac and then very publicly dare him to clear his name by voluntarily taking tests for PED's.

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