Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao vs Marquez Will Be at 147 or No Fight

[hitking]

The big picture is this. Those clowns want a big money fight. The biggest money fight is right underneath their noses. And yes, it's Floyd. Floyd has been the smart one in all of this by not commenting on anything. Floyd will fight when he's good and ready.

It's the dumbasses like Arum and Roach saying "We want Floyd next, we want Floyd next" knowing that Floyd already told those dumbasses that unless you dirty asses take full OSTs, he's not fighting him.

But Pac and his ******ed ass clan insist on bringing Floyd's name up on a regular bases just to try to make Floyd look bad. Floyd spoke his peace months ago. If they want Floyd so bad just come out and agree to full testing you ***in morons. But they dance around the test issues making it look like they already agreed to the proposed test then say that Floyd is ducking Pac. And *******s believe anything coming out of their princess' camp.

While everything you say is true, your opinion is in the minority, and that's what Team Pacquaio is living on. The fact is, people with very big voices don't like Floyd Mayweather. In the mainstream, Mayweather has had run-ins with the likes of Jim Rome and Mike Wilbon on their shows. They don't like him, and ridicule him every chance they get. Boxing writers like Dan Rafael, Doug Fischer, Larry Merchant, Brian Kenny, Bert Sugar, and the list goes on and on don't like Mayweather. So regardless of what happens, they're not gonna take his side. So in the end, Arum has a gold mind in his hand. He has a PPV selling fool that is 100% immune to criticism. And that's why he's conducting himself the way he is.

[LMFAO]

The big picture is this. Those clowns want a big money fight. The biggest money fight is right underneath their noses. And yes, it's Floyd. Floyd has been the smart one in all of this by not commenting on anything. Floyd will fight when he's good and ready.

It's the dumbasses like Arum and Roach saying "We want Floyd next, we want Floyd next" knowing that Floyd already told those dumbasses that unless you dirty asses take full OSTs, he's not fighting him.

But Pac and his ******ed ass clan insist on bringing Floyd's name up on a regular bases just to try to make Floyd look bad. Floyd spoke his peace months ago. If they want Floyd so bad just come out and agree to full testing you ***in morons. But they dance around the test issues making it look like they already agreed to the proposed test then say that Floyd is ducking Pac. And *******s believe anything coming out of their princess' camp.

Like I've stated NUMEROUS times before...Isn't it odd with all the talking Pac and his camp were doing while promoting the Cheato fight with "we want Floyd. Manny "agreed" to full random OST, no cutoff's, anytime, anyplace now that Manny isn't in promotional mode using Mayweather's name while locked into another fight.....We haven't heard a PEEP about Manny's claims regarding FULL Random OST No cutoff's, anytime, anyplace?? Yeah. They want Mayweather alright. LMAO.

Manny the honest Congroidsman, Arum, and team Pac want no parts of Mayweather. Only his name to promote Manny's next sham of a fight to his zombified, comatose legion of *******s. Manny is a TOTAL fraud. Best thing Floyd did was keep silent and let those clowns expose themselves on a daily basis.

The more nonsense they pull....the more the ball is in Floyd's court come real negotiation time.

Once Manny has been used up. Arum will toss him and his fans under the bus.

[DigitalBeast]

Pac isn't growing in weight anymore. He's been at 144-149 fight night for the past four years. To get up to 160 fight night like Floyd Jr., he would have to borrow some of Floyd Sr.'s hi tech undetectable roids (available only in Michigan). You know that ain't happening.

You may be correct, about the former point They(Manny and Sergio) simply may be too far apart for it to happen. Kinda sad, but seems that way...

[DigitalBeast]

Marquez just have to accept this terms and weigh-in at 140. Pac will probably weigh-in at 143-144. What's the problem?!?

Juan weighed more in his last fight, so basically something like this ^
That said, Mosley looks to get it. But maybe after that...

[GRUSTLER]

pac needs to tell arum how he wants it,not how arum wants pac to have it.

marquez should come up to atleast between light welterweight and welterweight.

pac should be allowed 147 no higher,which he woudlnt,would prob weigh in less or just about 145- 147.

if marquez thinks hes truely better than pac,and wants to prove it,accept the amount offered ,and make the weight and still have the skills to win at a light welter/welterweight.

although if marquez fights like he did vs katsidis,pac will prob knock him down every round!. if pac chooses to fight and sticks to a sturn gameplan,also pac will be just as fast and bigger and stronger than before,and marquez will be a little bit slower and hasnt changed his style like pac has his.

If Pac really was against what Bob Arum is doing then
he would have spoken up a long time ago. Oscar and
Floyd were the only fighters who didn't want to get
pimped by Arum.

[hitking]

Oscar used to do it when he was on top and Floyd too...So?

Yeah, but Pac isn't on top when it comes to an event with Mayweather. Mayweather's PPV numbers are actually better. So in the end, they both have to give a little. Mayweather gave in on the weight penalty, ring size, and glove size. Pac needs to give in on the USADA testing. Its not nearly as complicated as people want it to be.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Does anybody feel like Cotto should walk right up to Uncle Bob and b!tch slap the holy, hot, monkey piss outta him, on sight?????????? I know I do.

Cotto didn't want the title available for a catch-weight match(fight....Yes, title.......No), but Uncle Bob and the WBO strong armed him into it, but now Uncle Bob says it's ******ed for the WBO champ(Now Manny)to put the title on the line at a catch-weight. IDK if I could stomach an explaination from TopRank for the crawfishin' of their stance on this catch-weight business. They just made me more of a fan of Cotto with this bull****.

[Horvo]

Arum is just talking BS and setting the terms because he can, but in reality it makes no difference.

If the weight limit is 140(Hatton), Pac will weigh 148 the night of the fight. If it's 147(DLH) he will weigh 148. If it's 150(Margo) he will weigh 148. If it's at 168, he will 148.

Meanwhile JMM weighed 145 Saturday Night at a 135 limit. If the limit is moved to 147 he comes in a couple more pounds more. In other words, right around 148. JMM can pick whatever his ideal fighting weight and come in at that weight.

To compare Pac and JMM who had a three pound difference (148-145) at their last fight, with Pac and Sergio where there was a twenty pound difference (148-168) is ludicrous. You guys are getting too hung up on the weigh in limits and not the actual fighting weights.

Pac will not have a significant size difference with JMM regardless of what weight class they are fighting in.

[Boxing's Truth]

Like I've stated NUMEROUS times before...Isn't it odd with all the talking Pac and his camp were doing while promoting the Cheato fight with "we want Floyd. Manny "agreed" to full random OST, no cutoff's, anytime, anyplace now that Manny isn't in promotional mode using Mayweather's name while locked into another fight.....We haven't heard a PEEP about Manny's claims regarding FULL Random OST No cutoff's, anytime, anyplace?? Yeah. They want Mayweather alright. LMAO.

Manny the honest Congroidsman, Arum, and team Pac want no parts of Mayweather. Only his name to promote Manny's next sham of a fight to his zombified, comatose legion of *******s. Manny is a TOTAL fraud. Best thing Floyd did was keep silent and let those clowns expose themselves on a daily basis.

The more nonsense they pull....the more the ball is in Floyd's court come real negotiation time.

Once Manny has been used up. Arum will toss him and his fans under the bus.

And what's a shame is that if Pac is really on some *****t is how everyone around is pimpin' him like a little whore. Pac's day is going to come and it won't be pretty.

[hitking]

but really, the 147 becomes a no issue. pac never weighed over 144 in his weigh-ins. arum's no saint i agree w/ you, he probably just doesnt to bend over to jmm and concede a contract stipulation limiting manny, even though he knows deep inside and said that manny will come in at 143-44.

oscar didnt want to bend over for floyd, floyd never did also to jmm.

In the end, all you and I are saying is irrelevant. The reality is no matter how its spun, anyone in Manny Pacquaio's camp who catchweights are ******, citing the reasons Arum cited, are pure, 100% hypocrites when you look at Pac's recent history. CASE CLOSED UNDERSTOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!