Bute and Calzaghe defeated Sakio Bika more decisively than Ward

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  • sicko
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    #41
    and by the way Ward DID NOT start the dirty tactics this fight, Bika started them and Ward gave it back to him and rightfully so

    but bashing Ward is common this on this board, I am sure some people would love to see Ward go away or something so Froch can have a better chance at winning the Super 6 but it won't happen! hahaha Ward is winning this Super 6 like it or not, only way he loses is if Abraham or Froch catches him with something he doesn't see coming and KO's him, but Ward uses outstanding defense and is very quick and both Abraham AND FROCH will be too slow for Ward, Glen Johnson IMO would give Ward the toughest FIGHT as far as guys who are left in this Tournament
    Last edited by sicko; 11-28-2010, 12:45 AM.

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    • S H A R K B O Y
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      #42
      Calslappy was over rated and was scared into retirement. Fact.

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      • The Hammer
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        #43
        Originally posted by Shadows
        That may be, but Kessler would've always had trouble with Ward's headbutts and other dirty tactics that his crooked ref lets him get away with
        A crooked home referee can change the momentum of a fight for sure. But with a neutral, fair referee, prime Kessler KOs Ward.

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        • Mikhnienko
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          #44
          Originally posted by JonoYoungP4P
          how did one judge score it 120-108
          3 American Judges, 2 from Cali....

          Originally posted by Shadows
          That may be, but Kessler would've always had trouble with Ward.
          I agree but to compare their Kessler fights and the versions of him they fought the way some of Ward's more ardent fans do is just laughable.

          Same way that Bute detractors (alot Ward fans) typically wouldn't even mention the Bika fight when talking about his resume. If Ward could have boxed him from the outside like Bute did he would have, he couldn't though.

          If you were trying to use common opponents as measuring sticks though Miranda and Bika were similar versions of themselves, Kessler wasn't. Although imo Bute has definitely improved since 2007.

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          • Shadows
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            #45
            Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
            A crooked home referee can change the momentum of a fight for sure. But with a neutral, fair referee, prime Kessler KOs Ward.

            Editing my posts? C'mon Tunney, you're better than that.

            I'm not going to pretend that Ward is a saint, he's not, but don't act like Ward is the only one fouling in that GIF.

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            • Marduke
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              #46
              Was a boring fight, honestly. Rough and dirty, but not very interesting.

              I couldn't wait for the Marquez v Katsidis fight to come on. After that I just flipped over between rounds.

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              • The Hammer
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                #47
                Originally posted by sicko
                and by the way Ward did start the dirty tactics this fight, Bika started them and Ward gave it back to him and rightfully so
                No, Ward was landing sneaky headbutts in the early rounds, and holding Bika's arm repeatedly.

                I'd like Ward to fight away from home with a neutral referee who won't permit him to cheat.

                But he'll never face a good opponent away from Oakland.

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                • americanbot
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by sicko
                  and by the way Ward did start the dirty tactics this fight, Bika started them and Ward gave it back to him and rightfully so

                  but bashing Ward is common this on this board, I am sure some people would love to see Ward go away or something so Froch can have a better chance at winning the Super 6 but it won't happen! hahaha Ward is winning this Super 6 like it or not, only way he loses is if Abraham or Froch catches him with something he doesn't see coming and KO's him, but Ward uses outstanding defense and is very quick and both Abraham AND FROCH will be too slow for Ward, Glen Johnson IMO would give Ward the toughest as far as guys who are left in this Tournament
                  its almost disturbing....

                  it seems they will even go as far as creating delusions that aren't even there.......

                  i was impressed by wards b hop like performance. he's gonna be a hard hard man to beat....

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                  • daggum
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JoeyZagz
                    Andre Ward could never showboat like that against Bika because hed get his head knocked off.

                    Calzaghe is so far ahead of ward at SMW its insulting to even compare the two.
                    he's far far ahead. by my tally he's 17 manfredo's ahead.

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                    • Mikhnienko
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ИATAS206
                      exactly, good point.

                      Going into this fight I knew it was going to be a tough, hard physical fight and that's exactly what it was.

                      Honestly Bika should have been in this tournament from the start. He would have obviously been better than Taylor and he would have ****d Allen Green if they ever were to fight. Bika is still one of the best SMW in the world, even after losing to Ward. He gives anyone of the guys in the super six a tough fight.
                      Completely agree and i said the same thing, especially when they replaced Taylor, Green...wtf? (dibella fighter i know, a shame) Bika deserved that spot.

                      Bika vs Froch is another fight that would be tough as hell.

                      Could you imagine Dirrell vs Bika, he'd be crying and broken after 5 rounds
                      Last edited by Mikhnienko; 11-28-2010, 12:49 AM.

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