Bute and Calzaghe defeated Sakio Bika more decisively than Ward

[Shadows]

3 American Judges, 2 from Cali....



I agree but to compare their Kessler fights and the versions of him they fought the way some of Ward's more ardent fans do is just laughable.

Same way that Bute detractors (alot Ward fans) typically wouldn't even mention the Bika fight when talking about his resume. If Ward could have boxed him from the outside like Bute did he would have, he couldn't though.

If you were trying to use common opponents as measuring sticks though Miranda and Bika were similar versions of themselves, Kessler wasn't. Although imo Bute has definitely improved since 2007.

Quite honestly Mik, I think people jump the gun too quickly and automatically start comparing fights, how fighter A did versus fighter B, etc. It is what it is though, it's NSB. I am well aware of Bute's resume, and do think he gets too much hate, even though I have some criticisms of him. I'm the same with Ward.

TBH, I didn't see Ward try to do a whole lot of boxing from the outside, but I missed 20-30 sec of a round at times. He went right at Bika from what I saw.

PS.

The Walking Dead was pretty good last week IMO.

[sicko]

No, Ward was landing sneaky headbutts in the early rounds, and holding Bika's arm repeatedly.

I'd like Ward to fight away from home with a neutral referee who won't permit him to cheat.

But he'll never face a good opponent away from Oakland.

your a JOKE your post might as well be Spam for Eastern Europeans lol, you hate every American fighter so NOBODY believe anything you post and nobody takes it serious because your BIAS! Just admit your hate Ward because he is an American Fighter...hahaha

[The Hammer]

he's far far ahead. by my tally he's 17 manfredo's ahead.

Manfredo was chosen as an opponent by HBO, not by Joe Calzaghe.

We know you hate Calzaghe. You cannot be fair and admit that, unlike Ward, he's never had to be protected and assisted by crooked home referees.

[Joeyzagz]

Ward's referee companion should be banned from the super-six. This is ridiculous how he stages every match in Oakland, with his own personal ref and pocket judges.

Thank god Froch will have the reach advantage over this clown.

[ShoulderRoll]

It's nice to see the usual America haters come out on this thread.

If you're crying this much about the Bika fight I can just imagine how whiny you're going to get when Ward wins the Super 6.

[Mikhnienko]

Quite honestly Mik, I think people jump the gun too quickly and automatically start comparing fights, how fighter A did versus fighter B, etc. It is what it is though, it's NSB. I am well aware of Bute's resume, and do think he gets too much hate, even though I have some criticisms of him. I'm the same with Ward.

TBH, I didn't see Ward try to do a whole lot of boxing from the outside, but I missed 20-30 sec of a round at times. He went right at Bika from what I saw.

PS.

The Walking Dead was pretty good last week IMO.

He couldn't establish his jab and one of his biggest problems was that he couldn't get any respect from Bika due to his lack of punching power.

The end of the episode was rather epic. I think Merel may have had something to do with the attack on the camp. I think if he comes back looking for revenge his Brother and him will end up squaring off. The Crossbow rocks.

[sicko]

Ward's referee companion should be banned from the super-six. This is ridiculous how he stages every match in Oakland, with his own personal ref and pocket judges.

Thank god Froch will have the reach advantage over this clown.

don't mean ****, he can have the reach advantage all he wants, Ward will still get inside and will still box circles around him worse then Dirrell did lol

Keep the Froch hype coming though so when he lose it will make Ward Resume even more impressive

[paulf]

Missed this one. How did you manage to sit through a Ward fight??

[Shadows]

He couldn't establish his jab and one of his biggest problems was that he couldn't get any respect from Bika due to his lack of punching power.

The end of the episode was rather epic. I think Merel may have had something to do with the attack on the camp. I think if he comes back looking for revenge his Brother and him will end up squaring off. The Crossbow rocks.

He was too sporadic with it for my tastes, but he was just using it as a means to get on the inside. At times, he was able to land good jabs. But still, I expected more.

Ironically, I thought he did stun Bika with a left hook, but perhaps you disagree. It seemed that he got respect at times when he planted his feet, but I'll have to take another look.

Yeah, that's the sense I got. I did LOL when Granny stopped the shoot-out. I really like how they are showing how people are dealing with paranoia and descending into madness. The last line was awesome, "I remember why I dug all the holes."

[Joeyzagz]

he's far far ahead. by my tally he's 17 manfredo's ahead.

Ward had to cheat like a dog just to overcome Joe's leftovers. Abraham/Ward will be entertaining because Arthur is just as good a cheater as Ward.