Bute and Calzaghe defeated Sakio Bika more decisively than Ward

[Hitman932]

ok so its fair to compare a time where the ref totally changed the outcome of a fight to times where the ref wouldnt have changed nothing???take ur blinders off. bias is affecting your head. that makes absolutely no sense at all.

You have to forgive him for taking up for Bute. He is Canadian so he takes up for the ducking and bull**** excuses of Canadian fighters the same way that Brits do for David Haye.

[Hitman932]

- The Super 6 contracts say the ref should be from a neutral country in every fight. Not the case with Ward though was it...

If Mikkel Kessler's brother was the referee Kessler would still have been shutdown and embarrassed by Ward.

That contract stipulation is a joke. American referees are by far the best in the world and should be doing all the biggest fights.

This is what happens when you let a neutral euro ref the fight:

[Mikhnienko]

Bute uses his boxing skills to beat up ESPN caliber fighters.He reminds me of David Haye with his fear of leaving home to take on a challenge.

Those skills enabled him to handle Bika with an ease that Ward couldn't, in spite of what his 3 American judges (2 from his home state) scored it. 12-0 lol

ok so its fair to compare a time where the ref totally changed the outcome of a fight to times where the ref wouldnt have changed nothing???take ur blinders off. bias is affecting your head. that makes absolutely no sense at all.

Tell me how that negates the validity of my 3 points below in bold?

Disregard any comparison, i agree with your sentiments regarding the ref in Andrade I. That doesn't make my criticisms below inaccurate or false.

- So what you're saying is that Pascal should tell Hopkins "No, i won't allow you to fight me in Montreal Bernard" and make Bernard fight him in Philly or AC and draw 5 thousand people?

That's just as ****** as it sounds...

- the Andrade I fight is the only instance in a Bute fighter where the ref played a role like that that i can remember. Ward clearly has judges and refs that cater to him throughout the fight, in multiple fights.

- The Super 6 contracts say the ref should be from a neutral country in every fight. Not the case with Ward though was it...

[Zig Zag.]

Bute uses his boxing skills to beat up ESPN caliber fighters.

He reminds me of David Haye with his fear of leaving home to take on a challenge.

david has left home to take on a challenge

[The Hammer]

That contract stipulation is a joke. American referees are by far the best in the world and should be doing all the biggest fights.

Nonsense.

Lawrence Cole, Jack Reiss, Frank Santore Jr, and Joe Cortez are among the worst in the business.

Remember when Martinez KOed Cintron with a legal punch, and Santore said it was with a headbutt?

Some of the UK refs are pretty bad too - especially Ian John-Lewis and Richard James Davies.

[Hitman932]

Those skills enabled him to handle Bika with an ease that Ward couldn't, in spite of what his 3 American judges (2 from his home state) scored it. 12-0 lol

When Bute fights someone on his level he will KTFO just like he did here:

Of course, at the rate Bute is going right now it will 5 years before he steps up to someone on this level:

Fake ass wannabe Calzaghe.

[Mikhnienko]

When Bute fights someone on his level he will KTFO just like he did here:

Of course, at the rate Bute is going right now it will 5 years before he steps up to someone on this level:

Fake ass wannabe Calzaghe.

lol again not actually arguing any of the points because you can't. Instead you resort to cheap bashing.

I could just as easily post Ward getting dropped by Boone who is 17-16 with 1KO lmao. Golovkin is World Class, a P4P hardest puncher in boxing and it was 2003. Not that any of this has to do with what i asked you to address, which you obviously can't because....they're facts.

P.S. Bute certianly won't be getting hurt via Ward's feather fists, that's for sure.

[Pirao]

I am willing to bet that you thought Kessler was going to kick Ward's ass going into that fight.

The most riduculous post in this thread is yours making the assumption that Kessler anywhere near as faded against Ward as a 46 year old Holyfield was against Ibragimov.

I guess if you don't want to be taken seriously on the topic you accomplished it with this asinine post.

Yes, I was predicting Kessler to beat Ward, and? I know Kessler wasn't as faded as Holyfield, I was just using hyperbole to make my point, jeez.

Were you predicting Malignaggi to beat Khan?

[Clint650]

I'm not a big Ward fan either, I just think it's funny how selective people's memories are.

Ward is gonna be an acquired taste, like whiskey. His style isn't going to amaze and he lacks the one shot power for a string of highlight reel knockouts.

However, he is still young and as he matures I expect him to cut out some of the holding and become a more effective puncher. That's why this Super 6 is a good thing, Ward's skills will accelerate much faster against consistent comp than if he had not been involved.

His resume is already on par with Calzaghe's and Ward still has 8-10 years to go. He will easily surpass his accomplishments within the next year or two.

The same people who are ripping him for fighting at home are the same people who picked Kessler to destroy him and end his career before it started.

They're just mad that they were wrong, and they know that Ward is going to be almost impossible to beat so they do the one thing they can, try to tear him down over silly superficial criticisms.

i picked ward over kessler, i rip on ward for having a fortunate schedule of not having to leave the comforts of his hometown only because i think he would benefit more by winning on the road (silence the critics). but now my question is what if Froch beats him, then what?