Bute and Calzaghe defeated Sakio Bika more decisively than Ward

[Clint650]

It's really annoying when people harp on Ward about being in Oakland. It's not as if he would have been challenged in any of his wins had the fight been elsewhere.

People also don't like to admit that they had no problem with Ward fighting at home 3 times initially because they all thought he was gonne get his ass kicked by Kessler anyway.

So far as I am concerned the 3 home fights were a small consolation for being forced to fight the consensus #1 man in the entire division in his very first big fight.

Only after Ward whooped Kessler's ass did all the negro hating Euro lovers come out of the woodwork looking for ways to trash Ward.

Bottom line is this:

Andre Ward will have to win a neutral site fight to win the Super 6 and quite possibly 2 of them.

Everyone has known from the start that the final cannot be at home for Ward and the semi-final most likely will not be either.... yet they still harp on him for fighting at home because quite simply they cannot think of anything better.

Lucian Bute... now there is a ***** who will still be fighting at home when Ward is winning the Super 6 away from home.

that was my point. i agree that the ref was clearly on wards side, but like i said in previous posts... he wasnt losing. refs judges, and having the homecourt helps but doesnt guarantee victory. still, dismissing calzaghe and bute for the same thing won't change anyones credibility

[Hitman932]

that was my point. i agree that the ref was clearly on wards side, but like i said in previous posts... he wasnt losing. refs judges, and having the homecourt helps but doesnt guarantee victory. still, dismissing calzaghe and bute for the same thing won't change anyones credibility

The point is that almost every person who criticizes Ward for fighting at home is either a Calzahe or Bute fan.

The facts are simple. 1) Ward will fight away from home way before Calzaghe ever even considered it and 2) Ward will be fighting away from home for the 2nd time before Bute even leaves Montreal for the 1st time.

Very few objective and unbiased people are harping on about it.

Every single person who brings this point up is either 1) European or 2) Someone who doesn't like black fighters.

[flem1]

See my post below. It's quite sad reallly if you honestly can't grasp this.

That's a whole lot of excuses. Ward beat Kessler and performed a lot better than Calzaghe did.

[flem1]

The point is that almost every person who criticizes Ward for fighting at home is either a Calzahe or Bute fan.

The facts are simple. 1) Ward will fight away from home way before Calzaghe ever even considered it and 2) Ward will be fighting away from home for the 2nd time before Bute even leaves Montreal for the 1st time.

Very few objective and unbiased people are harping on about it.

Every single person who brings this point up is either 1) European or 2) Someone who doesn't like black fighters.

I agree with this.

Also, Freedom Fighter's forgetting that Calzaghe also had a hard time fighting Bika.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

As soon as someone puts his hometown, hugging + headbutting lights out the better, he's an embarrassment.

[Hitman932]

I agree with this.

Also, Freedom Fighter's forgetting that Calzaghe also had a hard time fighting Bika.

I'm not a big Ward fan either, I just think it's funny how selective people's memories are.

Ward is gonna be an acquired taste, like whiskey. His style isn't going to amaze and he lacks the one shot power for a string of highlight reel knockouts.

However, he is still young and as he matures I expect him to cut out some of the holding and become a more effective puncher. That's why this Super 6 is a good thing, Ward's skills will accelerate much faster against consistent comp than if he had not been involved.

His resume is already on par with Calzaghe's and Ward still has 8-10 years to go. He will easily surpass his accomplishments within the next year or two.

The same people who are ripping him for fighting at home are the same people who picked Kessler to destroy him and end his career before it started.

They're just mad that they were wrong, and they know that Ward is going to be almost impossible to beat so they do the one thing they can, try to tear him down over silly superficial criticisms.

[Pirao]

If anyone thinks that the Kessler Ward beat is the same Kessler Calzaghe beat, I'm going to say the Holyfield that was beaten by Ibragimov and Chris Byrd was also prime Holyfield Come on guys, it's ridiculous.

[Kagami Taiga]

u guys will keep on hating and he will keep on winning. simple. dont like his style thats cool. but at the end of the day, how many fighters would u pick over him???

[deuce_drop]

Tonight, Andre Ward held and headbutted his way to a decision win over Sakio Bika.

Bika was fighting two men in the ring tonight: Ward and his crooked referee. Did anyone else notice after Bika landed a hard clean punch, the referee gave him a hard shove away from Ward?

The referee was on Bika's back whenever he started to gain some momentum. But the ref never stopped Ward from holding Bika's arm every time he came in close, nor did he warn him about his constant use of headbutts on the inside.

And the judges were crooked too: the scorecards were ridiculously wide, especially the 120-108.

Lucian Bute and Joe Calzaghe didn't need a referee to help them win their clear decisions against Bika. They didn't need a home ref to permit them to hold Bika's arm, and they didn't have a home ref push Bika away after he landed a good punch. And they didn't use repeated deliberate headbutts as an important part of their game plan, knowing they could get away with it like Ward did.

Bute and Calzaghe OUTBOXED Bika and earned their wins.

Although the crooked judges had those scorecards ridiculously wide tonight, in reality the fight was CLOSER than Bika's fight's with Calzaghe and Bute.

Ward combines the characteristics of Bernard Hopkins and Sven Ottke.

Like B-Hop, he's a very dirty fighter. And like Ottke, he's a very protected fighter who has crooked referees and judges to make sure he wins all his fights in Oakland.

personally i thought ward fought bika better than calzaghe, ward was able to fight bika's fight and prevailed better IMHO, where calzaghe got lulled into bika's fight and looked like he wasn't taking bika seriously until he found out he had a real fight on his hands. i'm not saying bika beat calzaghe, im saying bika looked better against calzaghe than ward.

wards style is a amateurish hopkins style where it's too sloppy for most fight fans and it is confusing to those who don't know what is really going on.
for entertainment value though, wards style is about a 5 if you ask me. if ward would be more slick about his smothering mauling style he'd be fun to watch, but watching his blatant style of grabbing, smothering, holding and hitting, it's blatant and not all that fun to watch. i'd rather see him slip that stuff in there in between his boxing and fighting, not an onslaught of this hatton type fighting, which hatton was more slick with than ward.

bottom line, ward needs to hide his intentions better for his marketability sake.

also, goose should keep working the hell out of oakland and really build up wards demand there so he has a huge hometown fanbase which will build up his fanbase all over. if a guy has no hometown fans, we wont have many fans abroad......

[Seiko]

It doesnt matter who defeated who more decisively Mayweather beat

Marquez more decisively than Pacquiao and Pacquiao beat Oscar more

decisively than Mayweather styles make fights... do we need to compare

Calzaghe and Wards wins over Kessler