Bute and Calzaghe defeated Sakio Bika more decisively than Ward

[Hitman932]

To get it out the way, the ref in Andarade I shouldn't ref ever again.

You can't see the difference between Ward fighting in front of 4K and Bute selling out a 17K + arena? Why do you think Hopkins is going to Montreal to fight Pascal.

Most big fights in the US are lucky to draw 6K, even with their own guys.

So your argument is now that Bute should be allowed to do what Ward does, without criticism, because he draws more fans?

That's just as ****** as it sounds.

Everyone knows that the Bute referee was 10x more crooked than any referee who has done a Ward fight.

[Kagami Taiga]

Mikkel Kessler had to defend his title in Oakland, against a fighter with a crooked home referee who permitted him to headbutt, hit while holding, hit off the break, etc. The ref kept admonishing Kessler for nothing during the fight, but never said a word to Ward.

The Super Six was supposed to have neutral referees, but Goossen insisted just before the fight that they use the crooked home referee Jack Reiss.

You support Ward because he's an American, if a European fighter had a home ref that permitted him to cheat like that you'd be saying much the same as I am about Ward.

and this made kessler lose??? or was he completely outclassed??? how many rounds did kessler win???

[The Hammer]

ur a klitcshko fan and u got the nerve to call another fighter boring??? dude, ur exposing urself. u cant have it both ways.

Ward's fight last night drew only 4,120. The Klitschko fights in Germany fill football stadiums.

The Klitschkos to me are exciting fighters. They usually win by decisive KOs, and fight WITHIN the rules of boxing. They don't need crooked referees to allow them to cheat.

Ward headbutts and holds his way to dull decision wins.

[Kagami Taiga]

Ward's fight last night drew only 4,120. The Klitschko fights in German fill football stadiums.

The Klitschkos to me are exciting fighters. They usually win by decisive KOs, and fight WITHIN the rules of boxing. They don't need crooked referees to allow them to cheat.

Ward headbutts and holds his way to dull decision wins.

lol...ur a funny guy. but its clear ur just hating to hate. im a klitchsko fan too but ur doing the exact same thing all the klitchsko haters do. its sad. hating a fighter because u dont like their style and there not from your country.

[Hitman932]

I am a Klitschko fan and a Ward fan. There isn't much difference in the excitement level of their fights. (at least in Wlad's case)

That's just the truth. I appreciate both fighters because their skills are impressive and they are all class outside the ring. Their perfomances, in both cases, almost always leave something to be desired excitement wise.

[The Hammer]

hating a fighter because u dont like their style and there not from your country.

It's not just his style, it's that the crooked referees permit him to fight as dirty as he wants. He's lose his fights by DQ if they were anywhere but his home town.

None of my favorite fighters were born in the same country as me (Canada), they are from a variety of countries: Ukraine, Philippines, Poland, etc.

[Mikhnienko]

So your argument is now that Bute should be allowed to do what Ward does, without criticism, because he draws more fans?

That's just as ****** as it sounds.

Everyone knows that the Bute referee was 10x more crooked than any referee who has done a Ward fight.

- So what you're saying is that Pascal should tell Hopkins "No, i won't allow you to fight me in Montreal Bernard" and make Bernard fight him in Philly or AC and draw 5 thousand people?

That's just as ****** as it sounds...

- the Andrade I fight is the only instance in a Bute fighter where the ref played a role like that that i can remember. Ward clearly has judges and refs that cater to him throughout the fight, in multiple fights.

- The Super 6 contracts say the ref should be from a neutral country in every fight. Not the case with Ward though was it...

[The Hammer]

- the Andrade I fight is the only instance in a Bute fighter where the ref played a role like that that i can remember. Ward clearly has judges and refs that cater to him throughout the fight, in multiple fights.

Yes.

And Bute uses his BOXING SKILLS rather than illegal tactics like headbutting, elbowing, holding to win his fights. So with a neutral referee, he would still be successful.

[Hitman932]

Yes.

And Bute uses his BOXING SKILLS rather than illegal tactics like headbutting, elbowing, holding to win his fights. So with a neutral referee, he would still be successful.

Bute uses his boxing skills to beat up ESPN caliber fighters.

He reminds me of David Haye with his fear of leaving home to take on a challenge.

[Kagami Taiga]

- So what you're saying is that Pascal should tell Hopkins "No, i won't allow you to fight me in Montreal Bernard" and make Bernard fight him in Philly or AC and draw 5 thousand people?

That's just as ****** as it sounds...

- the Andrade I fight is the only instance in a Bute fighter where the ref played a role like that that i can remember. Ward clearly has judges and refs that cater to him throughout the fight, in multiple fights.

- The Super 6 contracts say the ref should be from a neutral country in every fight. Not the case with Ward though was it...

ok so its fair to compare a time where the ref totally changed the outcome of a fight to times where the ref wouldnt have changed nothing???take ur blinders off. bias is affecting your head. that makes absolutely no sense at all.