Technical analysis why Floyd will NEVER fight Pac or Sergio

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  • Pacquiao'd
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    #71
    Originally posted by Stigma
    Pacquiao's offense IS better than Floyd's, the same way Floyd's defense is better than Pacquiao's.

    The +/- percentage of punches landed by you/punches landed on you is hardly an impressive figure. Boxing is one of few sports that has the probability of going beyond simple scorecards. It's about imposing physical will on another human being. I look at Margarito's face or De La Hoya's and then I look at Floyd's incredible connect percentage against Marquez, or whoever, and I say: Pacquiao is a better offensive fighter.

    But the reverse is true. I see Manny with swollen eyes and cauliflower ears and Floyd without a mark and I say: Floyd doesn't get hit. But to quote statistics outside of a mathematic debate, to quote them as reasons for a fighter's greatness or lack thereof is idiotic.
    prove it. the stats are on floyds side, offensively. not manny's. you fail

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      #72
      Originally posted by yesir
      prove it. the stats are on floyds side, offensively. not manny's. you fail
      Going by ur logic Floyd should have fought Marg, Cotto, Williams since STATS WERE IN HIS FAVOR.

      Marg - Im not fighting to prove to the fans whos the best
      Cotto - I wanna fight Cotto but not right now
      Williams - I dont want to fight Pwill

      Going by the very same logic Floyd should have fought Pac by now instead of giving excuses like ODST which any true boxing fan knows is nothing more than a smokescreen.

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      • John Barron
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        #73
        Originally posted by Biolink
        If you think his defense is all shoulder rolling, then this isn't even a conversation worth having. He's shown more looks than that and uses the high guard most of the time anyways.
        lol why did this thread even get past the first page? this guy is a clear cut *******... couldn't convince him otherwise.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Joartcc7
          Going by ur logic Floyd should have fought Marg, Cotto, Williams since STATS WERE IN HIS FAVOR.

          Marg - Im not fighting to prove to the fans whos the best
          Cotto - I wanna fight Cotto but not right now
          Williams - I dont want to fight Pwill

          Going by the very same logic Floyd should have fought Pac by now instead of giving excuses like ODST which any true boxing fan knows is nothing more than a smokescreen.
          i dont know what the hell you just said aboove. btu the fight would have been done is pussaquiao would stop coming up with lies and excuses for why he cant take test without cut offs

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            #75
            I agree with some of your points especially on the southpaw stance and Pbf need to go toe-to-toe. But your conclusion that Sergio is a more complete boxer than Floyd is weird to say the least. Jmm is a more complete boxer than Sergio. Sergio is just unorthodox. Floyd 130-135 IMO is a definition of a complete boxer. Currently, Floyd lost a lot offensively but his defense is basically still prime.

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              #76
              Originally posted by yesir
              i dont know what the hell you just said aboove. btu the fight would have been done is pussaquiao would stop coming up with lies and excuses for why he cant take test without cut offs
              Any true boxing fan knows ODST is nothing but a smokescreen and a way to avoid Pac. It has been proven conclusively that true ODST is ODST WHOLE YEAR.

              Last I heard there weren't any ODST for JMM and Katsidis.

              Then again paid ***** stans like you ARE NOT BOXING FANS.

              On a technical aspect a fully conditioned Floyd and Pac is a 50-50 fight. A leg-shot Floyd goes straight to the hospital.

              Maybe thats the reason why Floyd doesnt want to fight Pac. Coz he knows he doesnt have the legs anymore to run for 12 rounds.

              Sergio outright toys with Floyd. Sergio is a far more technical fighter than Floyd and style-wise is a southpaw and is even more awkward than Pac. Not to mention he's a lot bigger than Floyd.

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                #77
                Originally posted by tesla_power
                I agree with some of your points especially on the southpaw stance and Pbf need to go toe-to-toe. But your conclusion that Sergio is a more complete boxer than Floyd is weird to say the least. Jmm is a more complete boxer than Sergio. Sergio is just unorthodox. Floyd 130-135 IMO is a definition of a complete boxer. Currently, Floyd lost a lot offensively but his defense is basically still prime.
                Floyd at 135 is a complete boxer. I definitely agree.

                But that style coupled with his courage in the lower weights, had that continued, he would have had a few losses by now.

                Although he would seriously make a case for all-time greatness had he stuck with his style at 135 and not cut off his balls after Castillo.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  Morales and Marquez were controlling manny with the jab. Floyd has a better jab than Cotto. He knows how to time his jab. Cotto just has more power behind his jab than Floyd does.

                  pac and sergio will be even more open to right hands courtesy of their southpaw stance. Floyd has the best right hand in the business of boxing. The right hand + left hook combo is a southpaw killer, Floyd's two best punches.
                  agree with this

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Joartcc7
                    Going by ur logic Floyd should have fought Marg, Cotto, Williams since STATS WERE IN HIS FAVOR.

                    Marg - Im not fighting to prove to the fans whos the best
                    Cotto - I wanna fight Cotto but not right now
                    Williams - I dont want to fight Pwill

                    Going by the very same logic Floyd should have fought Pac by now instead of giving excuses like ODST which any true boxing fan knows is nothing more than a smokescreen.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Cash Cow

                      Going by the very same logic...

                      Floyd should have fought Pac by now since by ur "logic" Marquez owned Pac.

                      But that isnt the case is it? Instead Floyd the coward-card by screening himself with ODST which isnt really ODST at all.

                      Not to mention Pac made cowards of the whole Mayweather clan.

                      On a technical basis as mentioned earlier, there is nothing in Floyd's arsenal that Pac cannot surmount whilst not everything in Pac is covered style-wise by Floyd.

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