Technical analysis why Floyd will NEVER fight Pac or Sergio

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    #91
    Originally posted by Gordon Gekko
    Two words. Lead right.



    What you're forgetting is that there are plenty of oppurtunities to counter Pacquiao. Pacquiao isn't the same one handed fighter he used to be. There's plenty of oppurtunities to counter Pacquiao's rights.



    This is the only part of the post I agree with, but Mayweather's defense is more than just a shoulder roll.



    I disagree Pacquiao has one of the best uppercuts in boxing, but even if he did it won't do him much good. Mayweather's highgaurd isn't a typical. Mayweather has the ability to be in highguard and fight off of his back foot. When under attack, Mayweather can actually stay in highguard, pull back, and look for counters as seen in the Zab Judah fight.

    *note: I'm not comparing Pac to Zab, but rather showing in example of different ways Mayweather can use his highguard.



    The problem here is that Clottey wasn't trying to counter or fight off of his back foot. Clottey was in highguard all night, but decided to walk forward or stay stationary. Pacquiao will not be firing 3-5 punch combinations all night at Mayweather. Why? Because as I mentioned before, Mayweather will be countering off of his back foot. With Pacquiao being as open as he is, Mayweather will find more than just a few shots.

    When this happens, Pacquiao will fall victim to what all of Mayweather's opponents fall victim to: Pacquiao will rethink what he's doing and try to adjust. Mayweather's power is severely underrated. Now before you bring up his KO ratio and the fact he didn't KO little Marquez, keep in mind that Mayweather was hitting him with single shots and never put his punches together. He has pop. It's why he was able to back up a strong chinned guy like Mosley.

    This myth of walking though Mayweather's shots is just that. It's a myth. Not only does Mayweather have some pop (I'm not saying he's Julian Jackson here), but he is the most accurate puncher in compubox history. Mayweather's offensive accuracy combined with his world class defense is going to make Pacquiao rethink the punches he throws. While he readjusts, Mayweather will start to pick him apart and not give him time to think. By this time Pacquiao like many before him start to collapse mentally and begin to look lost in the ring.

    When this happens Pacquiao's workrate will diminish and we'll start to here things from Lampley like "That is the fewest punches ever landed by Pacquiao in a single round in his entire career". With Pacquiao's workrate now gone, Mayweather will basically start to pop him at will and win a comfy decision.



    Mayweather doesn't need to potshot or go all out. There are plenty of mistakes that Pacquiao will make that Floyd will capitalize on. Mayweather has the discipline, methodical and creative thinking, the patience, and the athletic ability to make Pacquiao fight his fight, not the other way around.



    Floyd will getting KO'd is less surprising than Floyd running out of gas. Again, he's the most accurate puncher around, so he conserves energy by not having to throw many punches. Against Pacquiao he won't have to use his legs. It seems your entire post is based on Floyd's defense. You're underrating his offense. Pac's bouncy style makes it easier for Mayweather to time him and Pacquiao will be eating right hands all night long because he's open for them.

    Another thing is Pacquiao likes to feel out in the first round. This is his best shot at getting to Floyd, because Mayweather will start to break Pac down from round 1 with those lead rights. You're also wrong about Mayweather not having a jab. He has a jab, but his lead right is so effective (and will be even moreso against a southpaw) that he doesn't really utilize it.



    Your a and b are wrong. What has gotten Floyd to where he's at are

    a. Conditioning - ****m Richardson has even mentioned this and he's right. Mayweather is a hard working athlete. Say what you want about his persona, but NOBODY works harder than Mayweather. He's a gym rat. He doesn't smoke or drink and always keeps himself in tip-top shape.

    b. Mind - Mayweather's mind is his other great asset. He is able to figure out and out think any opponent. He's a master at psychological warfare before the fight and is a boxing genius.




    LOL


    Great post...Green K sent.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Joartcc7

      As for Sergio M. Floyd will never fight Sergio because Sergio is a more complete boxer than Floyd. Not to mention he's bigger and a SOUTHPAW.

      On a technical level Sergio is more technically sound and a lot harder to figure than Floyd.

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        #93
        Originally posted by V-3
        It's a fact.

        Although thank you for laughing.

        The very same reason why Floyd and the whole Mayweather clan became a coward when it comes to Pac is the same reason why they will chicken out on Sergio.

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          #94
          Originally posted by carts
          yeah just like ur "floyd is famous even in asian" thread hahahahaha lol that thread is not just ****d but beaten to death by the whole fakking forum hahahaha

          why dontcha beg a mod to delete that thread instead lol
          why would i. ilike my thread. Floyd is bigger than pac in Asian

          haha. *******s owned

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            #95
            Originally posted by Gordon Gekko
            Two words. Lead right.



            What you're forgetting is that there are plenty of oppurtunities to counter Pacquiao. Pacquiao isn't the same one handed fighter he used to be. There's plenty of oppurtunities to counter Pacquiao's rights.



            This is the only part of the post I agree with, but Mayweather's defense is more than just a shoulder roll.



            I disagree Pacquiao has one of the best uppercuts in boxing, but even if he did it won't do him much good. Mayweather's highgaurd isn't a typical. Mayweather has the ability to be in highguard and fight off of his back foot. When under attack, Mayweather can actually stay in highguard, pull back, and look for counters as seen in the Zab Judah fight.

            *note: I'm not comparing Pac to Zab, but rather showing in example of different ways Mayweather can use his highguard.



            The problem here is that Clottey wasn't trying to counter or fight off of his back foot. Clottey was in highguard all night, but decided to walk forward or stay stationary. Pacquiao will not be firing 3-5 punch combinations all night at Mayweather. Why? Because as I mentioned before, Mayweather will be countering off of his back foot. With Pacquiao being as open as he is, Mayweather will find more than just a few shots.

            When this happens, Pacquiao will fall victim to what all of Mayweather's opponents fall victim to: Pacquiao will rethink what he's doing and try to adjust. Mayweather's power is severely underrated. Now before you bring up his KO ratio and the fact he didn't KO little Marquez, keep in mind that Mayweather was hitting him with single shots and never put his punches together. He has pop. It's why he was able to back up a strong chinned guy like Mosley.

            This myth of walking though Mayweather's shots is just that. It's a myth. Not only does Mayweather have some pop (I'm not saying he's Julian Jackson here), but he is the most accurate puncher in compubox history. Mayweather's offensive accuracy combined with his world class defense is going to make Pacquiao rethink the punches he throws. While he readjusts, Mayweather will start to pick him apart and not give him time to think. By this time Pacquiao like many before him start to collapse mentally and begin to look lost in the ring.

            When this happens Pacquiao's workrate will diminish and we'll start to here things from Lampley like "That is the fewest punches ever landed by Pacquiao in a single round in his entire career". With Pacquiao's workrate now gone, Mayweather will basically start to pop him at will and win a comfy decision.



            Mayweather doesn't need to potshot or go all out. There are plenty of mistakes that Pacquiao will make that Floyd will capitalize on. Mayweather has the discipline, methodical and creative thinking, the patience, and the athletic ability to make Pacquiao fight his fight, not the other way around.



            Floyd will getting KO'd is less surprising than Floyd running out of gas. Again, he's the most accurate puncher around, so he conserves energy by not having to throw many punches. Against Pacquiao he won't have to use his legs. It seems your entire post is based on Floyd's defense. You're underrating his offense. Pac's bouncy style makes it easier for Mayweather to time him and Pacquiao will be eating right hands all night long because he's open for them.

            Another thing is Pacquiao likes to feel out in the first round. This is his best shot at getting to Floyd, because Mayweather will start to break Pac down from round 1 with those lead rights. You're also wrong about Mayweather not having a jab. He has a jab, but his lead right is so effective (and will be even moreso against a southpaw) that he doesn't really utilize it.



            Your a and b are wrong. What has gotten Floyd to where he's at are

            a. Conditioning - ****m Richardson has even mentioned this and he's right. Mayweather is a hard working athlete. Say what you want about his persona, but NOBODY works harder than Mayweather. He's a gym rat. He doesn't smoke or drink and always keeps himself in tip-top shape.

            b. Mind - Mayweather's mind is his other great asset. He is able to figure out and out think any opponent. He's a master at psychological warfare before the fight and is a boxing genius.




            LOL
            like i said. thread ****d and owned. shut it down fellas. i cant stand to see *******s getting bodied like this haha

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              #96
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              If Floyd fights Martinez I'll eat my boxers.
              i really think it will happen.

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                #97
                Originally posted by yesir
                i really think it will happen.
                Wanna bet all your points on it? The only realistic fight that i think Floyd would take if the mega fight doesn't happen is a fight against Berto or Cotto.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Joartcc7
                  It's a fact.

                  Although thank you for laughing.

                  The very same reason why Floyd and the whole Mayweather clan became a coward when it comes to Pac is the same reason why they will chicken out on Sergio.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by V-3



                    Stop with this..sergio knocked out pwill yes but vie watched a lot of pwill fights and it was gonna happen to him sooner or later..Martinez is am good fighter but not a complete boxer..he fights with his hands down n counter punches but he doesn't have a good guard and if he tries to sit back and box with someone like Floyd he'll eat jabs to the stomach and straight rights until it's the 8th round and he needs a knockout, than he'll turn into a bull and we all know what happens then. Floyd is a bad match for sergio his style is an incomplete replica of American boxing. If he had an American trainer he'd do better because we focus more on parrying counter punching over eating it with your head.

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                      #100
                      i didnt read the thread so probably will repeat what other wrote already.


                      but floyd will school martinez, i'm sorry to say. i know the die hard pacquiao fans hate floyd, but even the ones who can be objective must realise the man has skills to die for and has nearly everything martinez has but a lot more with quality on top.

                      floyd will fight pac when he feels it's more in his favour i think. right now he has personal stuff to deal with. i love pacman and his style and the man is a 110% warrior and not a fraud or a bum like some of your floyd fans say he is....if it doesnt happen i think mayweather will look like the bad guy in the end because of it as thats the way it's playing out in the press, even with the OST slurs etc....will be a tragic shame and 1 of them will carry the blame, my money is on floyd being called the coward if the fight never happens but if the fight does happen my money will actually be on floyd to beat manny...hopefully it's a trilogy! but first fight first.....

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