Pacquiao is ducking Sergio Martinez - Yes or No?

[Red_Menace]

Making Martinez come down to 154-156 "in a year or so" is draining him. I think most people have had enough of those BS type of fights. If the fighter is too big, don't fight him. Simple as that. Making him come in less than his best to "even things up" is BS and not what "the best fighting the best" is supposed to be.

Agreed.

Ray Robinson 145 vs Jake LaMotta 160
Ray Robinson 158 vs Joey Maxim 173

Henry Armstrong also had fights where he weighed in 10 lbs less than his opponent. If you want to see who's the best, pound for pound, then you let the other guy fight at a reasonable weight.

Still, I'm not saying Pac should fight Martinez. I think it's unreasonable to expect him to do that. If he does, then good on him for trying.

[Pacquiao'd]

Funny thing is this........Manny will eventually face Martinez if both are around in a year or so. It's gonna get to a point in which Manny will have no real challenges left....making Martinez at 154-156 the only legit threat.

Let's say he beats Floyd and Shane...is there really any point in fightin any of the other 140 and 147lbers? Maybe bradley...but that's it.

Martinez is in the same boat as the Bute fight is out as well as him campaigning at 168 (he is too small as mentioned by himself and Dibella). After Pirog....what's really left for him? I see a Cotto fight and maybe Angulo...but he wont have a lot of big name/big money fights available.


I think by process of elimination, both will eventually meet...but that's just my opinion.

he will not beat floyd and you know that. fighting shane is a disgrace. and he will not face sergio

[joseph5620]

Agreed.

Ray Robinson 145 vs Jake LaMotta 160
Ray Robinson 158 vs Joey Maxim 173

Henry Armstrong also had fights where he weighed in 10 lbs less than his opponent. If you want to see who's the best, pound for pound, then you let the other guy fight at a reasonable weight.

Still, I'm not saying Pac should fight Martinez. I think it's unreasonable to expect him to do that. If he does, then good on him for trying.

Good points. This is why I get irritated when fighters from today are compared to Armstrong or Robinson when it comes to this catchweight thing.

[iNDOLiFER]

Making Martinez come down to 154-156 "in a year or so" is draining him. I think most people have had enough of those BS type of fights. If the fighter is too big, don't fight him. Simple as that. Making him come in less than his best to "even things up" is BS and not what "the best fighting the best" is supposed to be.

then they shouldnt fight at all period. if making a fighter come down in weight is unfair then how is fighting someone 20+lbs over u fair?

[Deep Blue 1997]

Is 144 lbs. Pacquiao ducking 170 lbs. Martinez?

both are correct

i should have picked the second option though....my bad


but i hate how these top guys know that they can make a ton of money with whomever they fight, so they choose the easier, winnable ones.

[JDezi4]

He's not ducking him yet... We'll see

[jimmykaba]

Martinez doesnt want the fight cos he would kill pacquiao

[p4p-champ]

Is 144 lbs. Pacquiao ducking 170 lbs. Martinez?

Martinez has fought at 154lb for most of his career and weighed in at 157 =lbs for the Williams fight.

Pacquiao needs to set up and defend that 154lb belt he has.

[Rassclot]

Pac and Roach said they'll fight Martinez. what's the problem?

Martinez is the one that said he doesn't want to fight.


get your facts straight idiots.

[Khalid X]

Martinez has fought at 154lb for most of his career and weighed in at 157 =lbs for the Williams fight.

Pacquiao needs to set up and defend that 154lb belt he has.

Those guys said Martinez cant make JMW, and a fight at 154-156 is draining him...lol