How well would Manny do vs a prime Tito, Oscar, Shane at 147?

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  • dyu
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    #61
    Originally posted by kadyo
    Haha and you believe those explanations of yours like it was some work of a genius? Way to go, einstein lmao.
    Don't feed the troll.
    That ****** poster wants attention.

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    • Tuavale
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      #62
      Pac would beat em all. Too strong, too fast, too well conditioned and hits too damn hard.

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      • Rome-By-Ko
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        #63
        Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
        Prime Shane, Vargas, Tito and Oscar were in another league from the current crop of WW. Easily two levels above, easy! What about the oddball Mayorga? I don't recall if he fought at welter or superwelter but he could crack like a mofo, had a very good chin, and just used an unorthodox style that made people uncomfortable.

        There is no single WW at that level today, save Pac himself. I don't think Floyd would beat any of them honestly, too much heart, too much grit, too much power, and to much cojones for a prima donna like him. Only Pac has shown that level.

        In all honesty, if Pac fought all of them in their prime, he could win some, and lose some, it's just the way it goes when you fight the very best. On any given night, those guys could beat, or lose to Pac. This current crop, ie Old man Mosley, Old Man Hoya, Prima Donna Floyd, Vulnerable Cotto, War torn Margarito, Berto Bum etc... see the difference?

        The truth is, things would have been alot more interesting if Pac had come along ten years ago, it would have been the best WW era ever IMHO. Much respect to guys of old, but this is just my opinion from a modern perception.
        True true....

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        • Roy Keane
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          #64
          think mosley KO's pacman too big too fast to strong. Same with de la hoya.

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          • TOBYLEE1
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            #65
            That is a different breed of WW than the ones we have now. Would had been interesting

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            • Bushbaby
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              To put things into perspective,I don't think that the Mosley that fought Cotto,or Cotto at any time would last 12 rounds against the prime Oscar,Mosley or Tito!!I also don't think that Margarito the prime version could **** with them either!!I don't even think that Clottey could beat Bazooka Ike!!

              Listen to Mosley Oscar 1,those blows were sounding through the microphones crazy like!!Oscar,Mosley & Tito around the 2000's were the last of the truly great welterweights,hell,I'll even throw Forrest in there just for ****s & giggles!!

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              • mrpain81
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                #67
                Tito - I would take Pac over Tito at 147 but Tito wins at 154 and of course 160. Tito had horrible footwork, he would often take rounds to get warmed up and I think Pac lights him up the whole fight probably stopping him at 147.

                DLH - This would be a great back and fourth fight until about the 10th round when DLH starts slowing down, Pac either stopped him late or wins a close but clear decision.

                Mosley - This would be the best fight of the bunch, I think both guys would get hurt and it's really hard to pick a winner. This is Shane before the Forrest fight of course because after that he's been a tentative holder, I got Pac over the later version.

                I think the better fight would be Quartey vs. Pac because of that great jab that could off set Manny's rhythm.

                BTW we're talking about the Pacquiao that fought DLH/Hatton/Clottey/Marg not the one handed demon that fought under 140.


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                • Hallaqsillaq
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
                  To put things into perspective,I don't think that the Mosley that fought Cotto,or Cotto at any time would last 12 rounds against the prime Oscar,Mosley or Tito!!I also don't think that Margarito the prime version could **** with them either!!I don't even think that Clottey could beat Bazooka Ike!!

                  Listen to Mosley Oscar 1,those blows were sounding through the microphones crazy like!!Oscar,Mosley & Tito around the 2000's were the last of the truly great welterweights,hell,I'll even throw Forrest in there just for ****s & giggles!!
                  I've always remembered Forrest an an SW, for some reason.

                  Ike Quartey was a good fighter, very true!

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                  • Hallaqsillaq
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by mrpain81
                    [I]Tito - I would take Pac over Tito at 147 but Tito wins at 154 and of course 160. Tito had horrible footwork, he would often take rounds to get warmed up and I think Pac lights him up the whole fight probably stopping him at 147.

                    DLH - This would be a great back and fourth fight until about the 10th round when DLH starts slowing down, Pac either stopped him late or wins a close but clear decision.

                    Mosley - This would be the best fight of the bunch, I think both guys would get hurt and it's really hard to pick a winner. This is Shane before the Forrest fight of course because after that he's been a tentative holder, I got Pac over the later version.

                    I think the better fight would be Quartey vs. Pac because of that great jab that could off set Manny's rhythm.
                    Pac is better than all the current crop, but even Cotto and Clottey had some limited success in damaging him somewhat (I know Clottey fight was a joke, but he landed some good shots, few but still). Those guys were alot better, just something to ponder.

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
                      I've always remembered Forrest an an SW, for some reason.

                      Ike Quartey was a good fighter, very true!
                      Nah,Forrest was an undefeated welterweight when he man-handled Mosley the 1st time then beat him in a closer fight the second time,having the same thing happen to him against the crazy roughman Mayorga!!

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