How well would Manny do vs a prime Tito, Oscar, Shane at 147?

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  • oside4life
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    #51
    Originally posted by M@nny
    lol, I seen that fight live... Sweatpea was a shell of his former self when he fought Tito. LMAO at trying to compare the P4P, WBC Welterweight Champion version Oscar fought vs the stepping stone version Tito fought. I've seen Tito go down vs OBA CARR. Manny would have more than a chance at defeating Tito. To say Tito blows him out of the water with his first left hook is ridiculous.
    in my post i never said blows him out i said he would put him on ***** street and he would. Manny is a great fighter but at 147 he hasn't seen the class of fighter tito was at that weight period. If they fought 10 times at 147 and 147 none of this catchweight **** that the pacquiao camp likes to do tito wins 7 out of 10 maybe 8 out of 10 times

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    • PEBBLES!
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      #52
      Originally posted by kadyo
      hahaha now it's glass chin? and I'm the one who's got problem with comprehension? Continue, son, you are very entertaining.
      You are such a damn simpleton.

      I claimed he had a suspect chin, then tehMatrix made a post trying to imply I believed he had a glass chin.

      You quoted his post and continued with your "Stones is a ******" sentiments.

      It's you who is the failure.

      You provide nothing in this discussion. Scram, you uneducated fool.

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      • El Chicano
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        #53
        Originally posted by oside4life
        in my post i never said blows him out i said he would put him on ***** street and he would. Manny is a great fighter but at 147 he hasn't seen the class of fighter tito was at that weight period. If they fought 10 times at 147 and 147 none of this catchweight **** that the pacquiao camp likes to do tito wins 7 out of 10 maybe 8 out of 10 times
        I can live with that... I agree that of the three, Tito would be the most dangerous fight, because of his power, but if Manny could avoid that power, Tito might be the easiest to beat, outclass in terms of boxing. Not that Manny is an Oscar or Floyd like boxer, but his style is one that can give anyone problems. He fights from so many angles, his foot speed is incomparable and that combination of speed and power... People aren't rating him as a top 5-10 ATG now for no reason.

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          #54
          Originally posted by M@nny
          I can live with that... I agree that of the three, Tito would be the most dangerous fight, because of his power, but if Manny could avoid that power, Tito might be the easiest to beat, outclass in terms of boxing. Not that Manny is an Oscar or Floyd like boxer, but his style is one that can give anyone problems. He fights from so many angles, his foot speed is incomparable and that combination of speed and power... People aren't rating him as a top 5-10 ATG now for no reason.
          I can live with that too. I would say this though I would NOT MISS THAT FIGHT FOR ANYTHING

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            #55
            Originally posted by oside4life
            I can live with that too. I would say this though I would NOT MISS THAT FIGHT FOR ANYTHING
            It would be an edge of your seat type, GREAT fight for as long as it lasted.

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              #56
              He would have a shot,but tbh I see him losing all three of those fights if those fighters are prime...
              Last edited by Rome-By-Ko; 11-17-2010, 06:42 AM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by M@nny
                I can live with that... I agree that of the three, Tito would be the most dangerous fight, because of his power, but if Manny could avoid that power, Tito might be the easiest to beat, outclass in terms of boxing. Not that Manny is an Oscar or Floyd like boxer, but his style is one that can give anyone problems. He fights from so many angles, his foot speed is incomparable and that combination of speed and power... People aren't rating him as a top 5-10 ATG now for no reason.
                I think Manny is and ATG I don't know bout 5-10 at all tho,I can think of alot of other fighters to put there before him..But I say Manny has big problems with any of the three in their Primes..Think bout Oscar's Jab(one of the best in the bizz)Tito's power and very underrated boxing ability..Shane's reflex's and power andfast hands in his prime...I don't see Manny having and easy night with none of these guy's in their prime's and I see him losing these fights tbh with ya..But I'll be honest if Floyd fought these guy's prime I see him losing as well..

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                • lfc19titles
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                  #58
                  pac beats them all easily, his movement and angle/combo punches would be too much

                  but someone a top 10 atg loses all fantasy fights here

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                  • Mrmza
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Stones!
                    All those fighters KO Pacroid within 3 rounds in their prime at 147.
                    Bwahahahahaha!!! You tosser!!! Pacquaio all the way to the bank!!!

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                      #60
                      Prime Shane, Vargas, Tito and Oscar were in another league from the current crop of WW. Easily two levels above, easy! What about the oddball Mayorga? I don't recall if he fought at welter or superwelter but he could crack like a mofo, had a very good chin, and just used an unorthodox style that made people uncomfortable.

                      There is no single WW at that level today, save Pac himself. I don't think Floyd would beat any of them honestly, too much heart, too much grit, too much power, and to much cojones for a prima donna like him. Only Pac has shown that level.

                      In all honesty, if Pac fought all of them in their prime, he could win some, and lose some, it's just the way it goes when you fight the very best. On any given night, those guys could beat, or lose to Pac. This current crop, ie Old man Mosley, Old Man Hoya, Prima Donna Floyd, Vulnerable Cotto, War torn Margarito, Berto Bum etc... see the difference?

                      The truth is, things would have been alot more interesting if Pac had come along ten years ago, it would have been the best WW era ever IMHO. Much respect to guys of old, but this is just my opinion from a modern perception.

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