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  • Russian Crushin
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    #81
    I have seen it all....implied rule

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    • Pullcounter
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      #82
      Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
      Lol, I don't think you understand my anger at this fight and some of Pac's recent bouts. Pac's legacy is forever etched in time with 7 titles in 7 different weight divisions; soon to be 8. People will say NO OTHER FIGHTER HAS DONE THIS without understanding the fallacy behind it. 2 of those soon to be 8 titles occurred under catchweight terms. If he retires by the end of tomorrow, his legacy is concrete and that legacy has false merits. Do you understand now? If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, the De La Hoya bout was a catchweight fight in that Oscar hadn't weighed in south of 150 since the year 2000 prior to the fight with Pacquiao.
      1) other fighters have won championships with catchweights

      2) dlh/pac was not a catchweight. they agreed to fight at WW.

      what they didn't agree to was:
      - for dlh to weigh around 147 lbs months before the fight
      - for dlh to weigh in at 145 lbs
      - for dlh to put on only 2 lbs after the weigh in

      that' was dlh's own dumb azz fault. I dunno how you can blame pac for that. and what's the big deal? it wasn't even for a title.

      There may be no written rule with a required minimum for a particular weightclass; however, it is basically implied in the required maximum.
      what utter bulllshiiit. if it ain't written down it ain't a rule.

      For example, the jr. welterweight division ends at 140. Therefore, in essence, 141 is the start of the welterweight division.
      nope. 140 lbs is the maximum weight limit for jr WW. the WW division doesn't start at 141 lbs.

      Your argument reminds me of Christine O'Donnell's statement about the Constitution not having the exact line of "separation of Church and State." It may not be there, BUT IT'S IMPLIED IN THE FIRST *********.
      you gotta go back and learn your history. "separation of church and state" comes from a different document, not the constitition.

      Likewise, there's an implied minimum once you go over the weight limit of a particular class.
      no there isn't. you're extrapolation has no basis in fact.

      TO FURTHER HIGHLIGHT THIS FARCE OF A FIGHT, TEAM PAC WANTS TO GET A 154 LB BELT AT 150.
      this is a whole different argument, but I'll play.

      1) catchweights for belts have always been a part of boxing

      They are placing their own limits on a weight division,
      false. they are not placing limits on the entire weight division. they are placing limits on only their fight.

      which is essentially against the rules.
      it is not against the rules. boxers can negotiate the contracted weight limits of their fights.

      learn some boxing.

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      • FloydTBE
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        #83
        simple to follow

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        • Spray_resistant
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          #84
          Pull, there is no reason for anyone who is an active poster on this site and who watches fights regularly not to know this

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          • Xyei
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            #85
            Originally posted by The Evil 1-2
            LOL, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS AN IMPLIED RULE DUMMY. WOW. Let me put it simply. The jr. welterweight division ends at 140. What's 141 then in relation to the welterweight division. Is that hard to understand?
            How is it an implied rule? It's in the fucking constitution.

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            • Xyei
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              #86
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              Pull, there is no reason for anyone who is an active poster on this site and who watches fights regularly not to know this
              I thought the same, my friend but just read some of the replies to this thread and you'll see why he made it.

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              • crillz
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                #87
                Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                Well technically, the scenario that you put out there could happen, although it never would. The weight discrepancy is too great in that scenario. We're talking about 5.4 lbs here though.

                Yes, it will be interesting to see the weight difference tomorrow night but it's not uncommon for fighters weigh in the same at the weigh in and be 10 lbs different on fight night. I don't have any specific examples off the top of my head but I'm confident that I could find some.
                C'mon man you know what I meant, I know that's your boy but don't defend his ignorance, they would NOT let that happen I just said that to tell this imbecile the obvious which is in CERTAIN cases it's allowed such as this one but it's not like the difference in weight can be limitless, if it was too extreme of a difference the commissions wont let it go down unless it's Heavyweight where there is LITERALLY no maximum weight, they are in charge of protecting the fighters, how are they protecting fighters if they letting them face men 2-3 times their size, not by frame or structure but by actual weight

                this whole issue is a matter of opinion anyway which is what your friend fails to realize that he can say what he wants but it's his opinion not fact as he is trying to run around claiming

                btw the bold statement is a serious oxymoron, no offense but I'm sure you're an intelligent person and you didn't realize it but if you know the definition of an oxymoron the bold line qualifies

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by crillz
                  understood but that's what this imbecile is trying to say, he's saying that you can weigh whatever you want as long as you don't exceed the Max agreed upon limit I just made that example
                  what I said is true according to the rules of boxing, but most sanctioning orgs, boxers, promoters, etc... would ever (except on rare occasions) do something like what I said.

                  also he only weighs 5 pounds more today right now but tomorrow? this is where we will see the REAL weight disparity between the 2
                  margarito will probably be 15-10 lbs heavier. if I'm marg, the heavier the better.

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                  • go1nbanana
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                    Does anyone on who posts on this site actually not know this?
                    i was also dumbfounded by ignorance of some "boxing die-hard" fans posting on here.

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                    • Spray_resistant
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                      I thought the same, my friend but just read some of the replies to this thread and you'll see why he made it.
                      It makes me wonder how many posters actually watch and follow the sport and don't just post about things they don't know anything about....."implied rule"

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