there are no minimum weight limits, there are only maximum weight limits...

[sigrab jr]

Who cares. Let Margarito come in at the jr middleweight limit of 154.

[Pullcounter]

so if Manny said "**** it" and decided to fight a light heavyweight for his title(s) you're telling me that would be okay simply because Manny didn't exceed 175?

Your example is a little extreme, but yes, any boxer, not just pac, ANY MUTHA****IN BOXER, can fight way above their weight class and as long as they are under the maximum weight limit, they can fight for the title there.

HOWEVER, no boxer, no sanctioning org, no commission, no promoter, nobody would usually do something like this.

you're slippery slope argument doesn't change the rules. THERE ARE NO MINIMUM WEIGHT LIMITS!!!

there IS a problem with this situation

there is no problem with this situation. the only problem I see with this fight for the vacant 154 lbs title, is that pac and marg haven't done jack ***** at 154 lbs to be in contention for this belt.

[Pullcounter]

seriously hop off my nuts though and stop acting like you didn't make this thread based off my posts in the OTHER thread

so this is what it's all about for you? really?

[Pullcounter]

Feels like I'm missing something. Are people vex that Pacquiao came in under the limit?

they think there is a minimum weight limit that pac has to weigh over, but that rule does not exist.

[Xyei]

understood but that's what this imbecile is trying to say, he's saying that you can weigh whatever you want as long as you don't exceed the Max agreed upon limit I just made that example

also he only weighs 5 pounds more today right now but tomorrow? this is where we will see the REAL weight disparity between the 2

Well technically, the scenario that you put out there could happen, although it never would. The weight discrepancy is too great in that scenario. We're talking about 5.4 lbs here though.

Yes, it will be interesting to see the weight difference tomorrow night but it's not uncommon for fighters weigh in the same at the weigh in and be 10 lbs different on fight night. I don't have any specific examples off the top of my head but I'm confident that I could find some.

[Russian Crushin]

I have seen it all....implied rule

[crillz]

omfg!!! the ******ity!!!! it's ****en overwelming!!!

it's not about seeing ***** from a different angle... IT'S THE ****EN RULES!!!! There's only one ****en way to interpret the rules!!!!

gawdammit guys.



I don't even know you

but NEWS FLASH what YOU saying are the rules isn't officially written in the rule book, since when did you become a commissioner? there's no mention of it it's just an unaddressed thing because I'm SURE there is no mandate that there is or isn't a minimum weight it's just a disputed topic in certain bouts like this one and a bunch of others hence the reason why I backed tracked and caught myself because the way I spoke in the OTHER thread (the one this one is about) made it seem like there is a rule where you can't weight under a minimum and they broke it when it was really just my own personal opinion being blown out of proportion by me, you saying the complete opposite but it's just opinion all the same not fact as you're trying to pass it off as to try to hold yourself and your opinions over others as official when in reality it's just an opinion

[crillz]

so this is what it's all about for you? really?

you the one who showed ignorance in the first place, you KNOW that this thread is built off my conversation in the other thread and not only are you denying that but you tried to play dumb as if you don't know who I am on here meanwhile you indirectly making threads about conversations I had in other threads

[The Evil 1-2]

I have seen it all....implied rule

LOL, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS AN IMPLIED RULE DUMMY. WOW. Let me put it simply. The jr. welterweight division ends at 140. What's 141 then in relation to the welterweight division. Is that hard to understand?

[BennyST]

gotta admit if pac wins......he is P4P the greatest ever man........pac is the mother fkn man!

Are you ****ing ******ed? How does this possibly change anything? There have been fights like this all throughout history.

Pac is the favourite. Margarito has been dominated and knocked out in his last big fight and looked terrible in his last fight over a year ago now.

What would that make someone like Armstrong who came in at 135 and beat guys like MW champion Ceferino Garcia who weighed in at 146 for the WW title? What about weighing in at 133 against ATG Barney Ross who was 142?

Or maybe a more recent one? What about 40 year old Roberto Duran, great lightweight champ, won the middleweight title off 6'1" prime Iran Barkley? Duran weighed in a fat and ready 155 while Barkley a massive, ripped, shredded 160. That's the same with this fight....But, 160 was Barkley's best weight and he was in his greatest fighting years having just won the title off ATG Tommy Hearns. Duran was old, fat, slow and tiny in comparison and the height and size difference is much, much greater than in this Pac fight and the weight was the same as this fight only because Duran was fat. He won still.

People are ****ing trippin on this. I don't see why this changes anything.

The biggest difference though is that Pac is fighting some dude who has been slaughtered recently by an old shot man. He is a fighting a dude who just doesn't have it any more. He's not coming in ten pounds below an ATG in his prime for ****s sake! What's wrong with you people? Nor is he coming in as a fat old man against a monster of a MW in his prime who had just destroyed an ATG. Pac is the one in his prime, not Margarito. He's the fast one against the slow one. If he is anything like the aforementioned guys he will tear marg a new one, but it certainly doesn't make him anything close to being the greatest ever.