there are no minimum weight limits, there are only maximum weight limits...

[cixthree]

Preach !

and the **** that makes me laugh is

people are crying he came in UNDER the weight limit even if it was so low.

Shouldn't they be happy Marg has a huge advantage now? I swear these **** are nothing but mickey mouse crying *****es. jesus

The catchweight is to eliminate the advantage of being bigger... Pac don't give advantages...
The problem aint with Pac, it's with the bendy twisty rules being changed to cheat history

[Reloaded]

Lol, catchweights become a problem when they come to define a fighter's legacy. Do you realize casual boxing fans will call Pac the 'greatest ever' 100 years down the line because of 8 titles in 8 different weight divisions? Do you think it's moral to praise a man for false achievements? Yeah, I get it. Guys like Bernard have done it. IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. It's like that old saying, "if everyone jumps off a bridge, would you too?" If Pac can't make the weight of the Jr. Middleweight division, he shouldn't force Margarito to come in a catchweight. When Sugar Ray went up, he didn't call for catchweights.

The reason why people dont like Pac , great fighter but Arum is milking the hype all the way to the bank and breaking all the rules while claiming others are , Arum got a cheat his license back when the others said no , so he could fight this geeezuz ,,,, everything about the legitimacy of this is pure bull**** ,,,, and they did it to duck OST and Floyd ,, man Arum dont care about boxing he is in for the dollar .

[Bastian Loc]

There is no rule saying that you must weigh a certain amount though. That's the only point he's trying to make.

It may not be an explicit rule, but given that the weight classes are so specific I think its more or less implied.

It just makes a mockery of the sport when a guy asks for a catchweight in every fight and uses his sick trainer or the fact that he is "small" to invoke sympathy from everyone.

Roach can talk endless ****, but if you talk back, you have to apologize.

Pac could have catchweight after catchweight and claim he's the GOAT and we all have to stand by and nod our heads.

Its like a silent ******* dictatorship within boxing.

[Xyei]

It may not be an explicit rule, but given that the weight classes are so specific I think its more or less implied.

It just makes a mockery of the sport when a guy asks for a catchweight in every fight and uses his sick trainer or the fact that he is "small" to invoke sympathy from everyone.

Roach can talk endless ****, but if you talk back, you have to apologize.

Pac could have catchweight after catchweight and claim he's the GOAT and we all have to stand by and nod our heads.

Its like a silent ******* dictatorship within boxing.

Yeah I know what you're saying. The fight being a title fight is a joke IMO but money talks. I don't really like catchweights but if both sides agree to it, there's not really much I can say. Margarito is going to make a career high payday so it's worth it for him to agree to shed the extra 4 lbs and he is going to have a huge weight advantage over Pac on fight night.

[Pullcounter]

Then what's the point of weight classes?

I don't think you get it. as long as a boxer is under the maximum weight limit of a division, he can weight whatever he wants. usually in our day and age, a boxer will chose the lowest maximum weight limit that they can make. But rarely in a few extraordinary instances, will a boxer (like mayweather or pacquiao) will step up and fight boxers that are way too big for them. it's their decision and it's their risk.

Hell, let's have Nonito Donaire fight Chad Dawson tommorow.

if that"s what the fans really want then i'm sure it could be made, but I highly doubt either guy would want to make that fight, nor would the fans want to see it, nor would any sanctioning org allow it, nor would any commission allow it.

[Pullcounter]

Lol, catchweights become a problem when they come to define a fighter's legacy. Do you realize casual boxing fans will call Pac the 'greatest ever' 100 years down the line because of 8 titles in 8 different weight divisions? Do you think it's moral to praise a man for false achievements? Yeah, I get it. Guys like Bernard have done it. IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. It's like that old saying, "if everyone jumps off a bridge, would you too?" If Pac can't make the weight of the Jr. Middleweight division, he shouldn't force Margarito to come in a catchweight. When Sugar Ray went up, he didn't call for catchweights.

define a fighter's legacy???

pac has only had 2 catchweight fights!!!!! gawddamn you mutha****ers have a short as memory!!! lemme give you some advice... before you start talking about "legacy" and what casual boxing fans are calling pac 100 years down the line... first define pac's legacy by looking at his entire career, and not just the past 2 fights.

gawddamn you guys. gawddamn.

[Pullcounter]

Riiiight.


WW is from 141-147.

Jmw is from 148-154

MW is from 155-160.

no dummy. there are no minimum weight limits only maximum.

saying "141-147" is WW is just what most WWs should weigh, but there is no rule against a 135 lber campaigning at WW for and winning WW belts. LET ME REPEAT! THERE ARE NO MINIMUM WEIGHT LIMITS!!!

If pac weights 144, he is a WW and a small one at that. Yet he's fighting for a JMW paper strap?

nonito donaire could fight at jr MW for a paper strap there and it'd still be within the rules of boxing.

[cixthree]

that is some straight up bull***** you just made up. there are no minimum limits and anyone can weight what ever the **** they want as long as they are under the maximum limit.

damn the ignorance on these boards is reaching apocalyptic levels!



that's not a "rule" its just something decent people do.

Is'nt it funnt that, when Manny does something it's ok. But if someone else does it, it's not rite?
I agree with the weight thing, but it's all one sided. If Maeg had said no to 150, he'd have lost that pay day. If he'd asked Manny to make 150, he'd have lost the pay day and he knew all of this.

It is what it is, but stop acting like this is not BS.
a 143 vs 150 for 154 vacant belt? Tell me that sounds rite...

[crillz]

listen up dummies cause you're about to get some education.

the maximum middleweight limit is 160 lbs.

the maximum jr middleweight limit is 154 lbs.

the maximum welterweight limit is 147 lbs.

the maximum jr welterweight limit is 140 lbs.

That means if JMM wants to fight martinez at 160 lbs, he can weigh 135 lbs and martinez can weigh 160 lbs and JMM can still win the title at middleweight.

when you use "160-155 lbs" to describe a middleweight bout, it's basically because most middleweights weigh around 160 to 155 lbs. however, it's possible for a one boxer to weigh 153 lbs and the other to weigh 160 lbs and the middleweight title will still be on the line for both.

what "160-155 lbs" really means is that the maximum limit for middleweight is 160 lbs and the maximum limit for jr middlweight is 154 lbs.

damn son hop off my **** you know damn well you created this thread because of me, stop spamming you got something to say about what I said reply to me don't go making threads about it like a little b1tch

[Pullcounter]

I agree. Damn, Pull. After seeing some of the responses to this thread, I can see why you made it.

of course. we are the rare posters on this board that actually know a damn thing about this sport we love. we are true boxing fans, not some nuthuggers like some of these other fakers.