there are no minimum weight limits, there are only maximum weight limits...

[danny711]

Then what's the point of weight classes? Hell, let's have Nonito Donaire fight Chad Dawson tommorow.

If the Flash thinks he can do it then he should be able to give it a crack.

[Pullcounter]

So y is it ok for a Welterweight boxer to fight for a JR. Middleweight, Vacant title?
just cuz it's Pacquiao???

no dummy.

I never said it was ok for 2 welterweights (marg fought the majority of his career at WW) to fight for a vacant 154 lbs title.

personally, I'm against this being a title fight, but not because of the catchweight (which has always been a part of boxing) and not because pac was 144 lbs (which he's entitled to do under the rules of boxing).

the reason why I'm against this fight being for the title, is because neither margarito nor pac have done jack ***** at WW to deserve to win the vacant title.

But that's a question you gotta ask Sulaiman.

[The Evil 1-2]

lols... catchweights aren't "mistakes" that need to be "corrected". catchweights are made in the interest of making big fights.


tell that to bernard hopkins. he's had a bunch of catchweight fights, but somehow he's still called the living legend.

but honestly, to tell you the truth, the 154 lbs strap that is on the line for this fight means nothing. it's a paper title.

Lol, catchweights become a problem when they come to define a fighter's legacy. Do you realize casual boxing fans will call Pac the 'greatest ever' 100 years down the line because of 8 titles in 8 different weight divisions? Do you think it's moral to praise a man for false achievements? Yeah, I get it. Guys like Bernard have done it. IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. It's like that old saying, "if everyone jumps off a bridge, would you too?" If Pac can't make the weight of the Jr. Middleweight division, he shouldn't force Margarito to come in a catchweight. When Sugar Ray went up, he didn't call for catchweights.

[Bastian Loc]

listen up dummies cause you're about to get some education.

the maximum middleweight limit is 160 lbs.

the maximum jr middleweight limit is 154 lbs.

the maximum welterweight limit is 147 lbs.

the maximum jr welterweight limit is 140 lbs.

That means if JMM wants to fight martinez at 160 lbs, he can weigh 135 lbs and martinez can weigh 160 lbs and JMM can still win the title at middleweight.

when you use "160-155 lbs" to describe a middleweight bout, it's basically because most middleweights weigh around 160 to 155 lbs. however, it's possible for a one boxer to weigh 153 lbs and the other to weigh 160 lbs and the middleweight title will still be on the line for both.

what "160-155 lbs" really means is that the maximum limit for middleweight is 160 lbs and the maximum limit for jr middlweight is 154 lbs.

Riiiight.


WW is from 141-147.

Jmw is from 148-154

MW is from 155-160.

If pac weights 144, he is a WW and a small one at that. Yet he's fighting for a JMW paper strap?

[The Evil 1-2]

Riiiight.


WW is from 141-147.

Jmw is from 148-154

MW is from 155-160.

If pac weights 144, he is a WW and a small one at that. Yet he's fighting for a JMW paper strap?

I don't agree with your support for Margarito. BUT I CAN RESPECT THIS POST.

[Xyei]

no dummy.

I never said it was ok for 2 welterweights (marg fought the majority of his career at WW) to fight for a vacant 154 lbs title.

personally, I'm against this being a title fight, but not because of the catchweight (which has always been a part of boxing) and not because pac was 144 lbs (which he's entitled to do under the rules of boxing).

the reason why I'm against this fight being for the title, is because neither margarito nor pac have done jack ***** at WW to deserve to win the vacant title.

But that's a question you gotta ask Sulaiman.

I agree. Damn, Pull. After seeing some of the responses to this thread, I can see why you made it.

[myCoCainE]

I wonder who the #1 and #2 p4ps of all time people here crying about Pac fighting for JMW title and now weighing as a JMW are? LOL.

[Pullcounter]

Why would Pac ask Marg to fight at 147? His vested interest lies in grabbing a 154 title.

come on man we all know that strap is worthless

[Xyei]

Riiiight.


WW is from 141-147.

Jmw is from 148-154

MW is from 155-160.

If pac weights 144, he is a WW and a small one at that. Yet he's fighting for a JMW paper strap?

There is no rule saying that you must weigh a certain amount though. That's the only point he's trying to make.

[boxinfan#1]

no dummy.

I never said it was ok for 2 welterweights (marg fought the majority of his career at WW) to fight for a vacant 154 lbs title.

personally, I'm against this being a title fight, but not because of the catchweight (which has always been a part of boxing) and not because pac was 144 lbs (which he's entitled to do under the rules of boxing).

the reason why I'm against this fight being for the title, is because neither margarito nor pac have done jack ***** at WW to deserve to win the vacant title.

But that's a question you gotta ask Sulaiman.

OK so I think we're finally agreeing in something , my problem wit Pacquiao weighin in at 144.6lbs is that he's fighting for the Jr. Mid title, if this fight wasn't for a title then I wouldn't ***** about the weights cuz both came in under 154