there are no minimum weight limits, there are only maximum weight limits...

[DondiNeverLeft]

listen up dummies cause you're about to get some education.

the maximum middleweight limit is 160 lbs.

the maximum jr middleweight limit is 154 lbs.

the maximum welterweight limit is 147 lbs.

the maximum jr welterweight limit is 140 lbs.

That means if JMM wants to fight martinez at 160 lbs, he can weigh 135 lbs and martinez can weigh 160 lbs and JMM can still win the title at middleweight.

when you use "160-155 lbs" to describe a middleweight bout, it's basically because most middleweights weigh around 160 to 155 lbs. however, it's possible for a one boxer to weigh 153 lbs and the other to weigh 160 lbs and the middleweight title will still be on the line for both.

what "160-155 lbs" really means is that the maximum limit for middleweight is 160 lbs and the maximum limit for jr middlweight is 154 lbs.

Dumbass divisions were put in place to protect the health of fighters. I know some of you guys are obsessed with Pac because you believe him to be superman or super drug man whatever. But if Pac is hospitalized or put in a coma ...I bet you will all rethink this. Why do you think this does not happen regularly? Not because fighters are cowards but because its not allowed for most. You ask Allowed?
Well commissions are not creating belts for weight classes in between weights and allowing fighters to win divisions in that class. Only for Pac.
And the only thing dummies see is...HE DA MAN...lol

Many fighters would do the same thing given the opportunities.

[crillz]

lols... absworth... you reading this... omfg... ahahahahahahahah. the reason he has this "beef" with me is because I apparently didn't reference him and his thread. ridiculous...

that's not why you imbecile it's because you was being fake, you was indirectly insulting me in this thread and when I came at you about it you played dumb and have yet to admit it, I just wanted you to be real and if you felt strong enough about what I said to make a post then call me out about it don't do that indirect **** like I'm some idiot who can't put 2 and 2 together

[Guest]

Benny is being very articulate in this thread.

As long as he's not campaigning for same day weigh ins like he's done in the past, he makes a lot of sense here.


Props to Benny!

[BennyST]

there IS a problem with this situation it's just not as big of a problem as I made it in the other thread and how you're making it now, this shouldn't even be a topic you literally just made a thread based off my conversation in the other thread[/I]"

..he got all butt hurt but you just agreed with me it wouldn't be okay for Manny to fight someone 30 solid pounds above him at light heavyweight, that's just too obvious I can't believe I had to explain that to him

See, the thing is that it's not Pac fighting a LHW. It's only five pounds and five pounds difference happens every weekend in fights.

It's only five pounds. Not five Kgs. It's not much at all and has happened consistently throughout history.

A difference of that much in just about every circumstance wouldn't even happen and wouldn't even be tried or approved, but if a fighter had slowly fought his way up beating bigger and bigger guys without showing any difference as if he was a LHW, then there sin't a problem with it. All it does is show how much greater that small guy is.

There are instances in nearly every guys career of fighting guys four/five/six/more pounds bigger or smaller. If a fighter has beaten the bigger guys at whatever weight he comes in at, as long as the other fighter is coming in at his weight, there is no problem.

[BennyST]

my problem before today's posts as a whole, my problem since this fight been signed is that they are fighting for a vacant title at a weight that doesn't equate with the title they are fighting for, they are both not ranked highly enough to have anything but their names and faces to warrant this opportunity and it's all being done to squeeze in another accolade and further taint and create tampered history, it will apprear much different than what it really is when history is written and I have always been against this fight and this is someone who loves Manny Pacquiao I just love the sport much more and I feel they disrespecting the integrity of it like the way De La Hoya did when he got a shot against B-Hop, Limond and Morales recently and even Ray Leonard against Donny Lalonde, it wasn't cool in those instances and it ain't cool now

I was just trying to make the point that no matter how capable you prove you are no commission would allow for someone to face another solid elite level champion that outweighs them by 40 pounds, 10-15 pounds? yea, 20 pounds? that's HIGHLY unlikely, 40 pounds? IT WONT HAPPEN (unless you're a Heavyweight which I've already stated earlier because there is literally NO limit there) the commissions wont let it happen, it would technically not be possible because no commission anywhere anytime would even entertain the thought

Yes. I agree. It wouldn't happen. No commission would allow it, and no promoter, manager, trainer would risk the health of his fighter doing it.

However, in this fight it's only five pounds, not twenty or forty. As you said, the problem with this fight is not the weights they chose to come in (well, Marg didn't really choose to come in at 150) but the whole situation regarding the title, division and bureaucratic nonsense it's being done for.

[crillz]

get off your high horse man, this thread was a responsse for a lot of people who thinks theire is a minimum weight limit, ....why should the ts gve a **** about just one poster that he does'nt even know!....you act like your the man around here!

I'm just saying if you have an opinion about what I said talk to me about it don't go make a separate thread like I can't put 2 and 2 together and know that you're basically indirectly dissing me and my opinion

[Yuiopy]

Dumbass divisions were put in place to protect the health of fighters. I know some of you guys are obsessed with Pac because you believe him to be superman or super drug man whatever. But if Pac is hospitalized or put in a coma ...I bet you will all rethink this. Why do you think this does not happen regularly? Not because fighters are cowards but because its not allowed for most. You ask Allowed?
Well commissions are not creating belts for weight classes in between weights and allowing fighters to win divisions in that class. Only for Pac.
And the only thing dummies see is...HE DA MAN...lol

Many fighters would do the same thing given the opportunities.

So then if Pacquiao manages to stop Margarito you will have to admit he's a real badass to be able to take on someone that can potentially put him in a coma

[Pullcounter]

he thinks he's the man to beat around here!........lol

I know right?

get off your high horse man, this thread was a responsse for a lot of people who thinks theire is a minimum weight limit, ....why should the ts gve a **** about just one poster that he does'nt even know!....you act like your the man around here!

exactly.

[DondiNeverLeft]

So then if Pacquiao manages to stop Margarito you will have to admit he's a real badass to be able to take on someone that can potentially put him in a coma

Ok mr Alt with four posts..lol

YOur dumb or just dont know the sport if you believe that every heavier fighter beats every lighter fighter or vice versa. Spare me the dumbness.

[Pullcounter]

I'm just saying if you have an opinion about what I said talk to me about it don't go make a separate thread like I can't put 2 and 2 together and know that you're basically indirectly dissing me and my opinion

I didn't make this thread because of you. you are not teh center of boxingscene. sorry to inform you.