there are no minimum weight limits, there are only maximum weight limits...

[The Evil 1-2]

catchweights have always been a part of boxing. if you were a true student of the sport, you'd understand this.

It still doesn't make it right. Just because it's been part of history doesn't make it valid. Past mistakes should be corrected for future progression. This type of thing invalidates achievements.

[Pullcounter]

if Pacquiao is fighting for a JR. Mid title he should at least be a JR. Mid fighter, that's what a decent fighter would do

no dumb azz... a decent fighter can weigh whatever ever the **** they want to their disadvantage or advantage.

learn boxing.

[Reloaded]

listen up dummies cause you're about to get some education.

the maximum middleweight limit is 160 lbs.

the maximum jr middleweight limit is 154 lbs.

the maximum welterweight limit is 147 lbs.

the maximum jr welterweight limit is 140 lbs.

That means if JMM wants to fight martinez at 160 lbs, he can weigh 135 lbs and martinez can weigh 160 lbs and JMM can still win the title at middleweight.

when you use "160-155 lbs" to describe a middleweight bout, it's basically because most middleweights weigh around 160 to 155 lbs. however, it's possible for a one boxer to weigh 153 lbs and the other to weigh 160 lbs and the middleweight title will still be on the line for both.

what "160-155 lbs" really means is that the maximum limit for middleweight is 160 lbs and the maximum limit for jr middlweight is 154 lbs.

And where do you mention the part about thats great if its voluntary , but when you force a title holder below the division weight to defend his own title WTF is that ,, and then claim the title , come on !

Then for another so calld belt you force a bigger fighter to fight you for a vacant title at a weight below the limit , and then say you are the 154 World Title holder ,,,, 8 titles get outa here !, this is Arums bull**** and you fanboys swallow it by the bucket full .

[boxinfan#1]

you're slippery slope argument doesn't work. most commissions and sanctioning orgs would never allow for something liek that. most boxers would never do something like that.

So y is it ok for a Welterweight boxer to fight for a JR. Middleweight, Vacant title?
just cuz it's Pacquiao???

[713832281]

haha, awesome!

i refer everyone to my avy and sig....

[Gordon Gekko]

don't you get it? pac fighting margarito at 150 lbs is a gift!!!! pac could've told marg to fight at 147 lbs or no fight. GIVING MARGARITO 3 LBS TO PLAY WITH IS A BOON!!!!! PAC IS WAY TOO ****EN NICE!!!

Why would Pac ask Marg to fight at 147? His vested interest lies in grabbing a 154 title.

[The Evil 1-2]

no dumb azz... a decent fighter can weigh whatever ever the **** they want to their disadvantage or advantage.

learn boxing.

Then what's the point of weight classes? Hell, let's have Nonito Donaire fight Chad Dawson tommorow.

[Xyei]

and these fools call themselves boxing fans... smh

Seriously... This should be common knowledge if you're a boxing fan.

[Pullcounter]

It still doesn't make it right. Just because it's been part of history doesn't make it valid. Past mistakes should be corrected for future progression.

lols... catchweights aren't "mistakes" that need to be "corrected". catchweights are made in the interest of making big fights.

This type of thing invalidates achievements.

tell that to bernard hopkins. he's had a bunch of catchweight fights, but somehow he's still called the living legend.

but honestly, to tell you the truth, the 154 lbs strap that is on the line for this fight means nothing. it's a paper title.

[myCoCainE]

The #1 and #2 P4Ps of all time fought below the respected weight categories for a title fight.

Ray Robinson fought at LHW title as a MW
and Henry Armstrong fought for the WW as a LW and actually won and depended that title several times below the WW limit.