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  • Pullcounter
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    #151
    Originally posted by IdNod4u2
    Dumbass divisions were put in place to protect the health of fighters. I know some of you guys are obsessed with Pac because you believe him to be superman or super drug man whatever. But if Pac is hospitalized or put in a coma ...I bet you will all rethink this. Why do you think this does not happen regularly? Not because fighters are cowards but because its not allowed for most. You ask Allowed?
    Well commissions are not creating belts for weight classes in between weights and allowing fighters to win divisions in that class. Only for Pac.
    And the only thing dummies see is...HE DA MAN...lol

    Many fighters would do the same thing given the opportunities.
    go respond to benny's posts. thanks in advance.

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    • Steven Adams
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      #152
      ppfftt!!

      thanks for telling us something we already know

      Just like theres no Height limits... LOL

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      • Yuiopy
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        #153
        Originally posted by IdNod4u2
        Ok mr Alt with four posts..lol

        YOur dumb or just dont know the sport if you believe that every heavier fighter beats every lighter fighter or vice versa. Spare me the dumbness.
        Are you too dumb to realize I was replying to your exaggeration about Pac ending up in a coma
        Also I'm not an alt. I just don't spend my days posting on a message board.

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        • Spray_resistant
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          #154
          Originally posted by shogun tua
          ppfftt!!

          thanks for telling us something we already know

          Just like theres no Height limits... LOL
          Apparently not everyone knew judging by the responses in threads tonight

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          • crillz
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            #155
            Originally posted by BennyST
            Yes. I agree. It wouldn't happen. No commission would allow it, and no promoter, manager, trainer would risk the health of his fighter doing it.

            However, in this fight it's only five pounds, not twenty or forty. As you said, the problem with this fight is not the weights they chose to come in (well, Marg didn't really choose to come in at 150) but the whole situation regarding the title, division and bureaucratic nonsense it's being done for.
            you need not reference what this fight's weight difference is because I'm clearly not talking about this fight I'm talking about pullcounters claim that there is no limit as to how low a fighter comes in to a fight as long as he doesn't exceed the agreed limit so I asked him, and this is outside of Pacquiao-Margarito (this is a general question which is why after a while I just used numbers and not names to make my point) I asked him if it was possible that someone at 135 while weighing 135 could fight a champion at 175 who outweighs him by 40 pounds for his title and he basically said yes as long as the guy who weighed 135lbs doesn't exceed 175 and that is absurd

            you might ask why did I come up with such a crazy scenario? I'll tell you, because he said there is ZERO limit to what the difference in weight between 2 fighters can be as long as they don't surpass the maximum limit. he made my scenario possible by saying there is ZERO limit in what the weight disparity will be, that opens the space for me to make that scenario and I did and he said it wouldn't matter which is pure bull**** because it clearly DOES matter, no commission would even entertain that thought meanwhile you have this idiot saying that it's possible..

            there may not be a MANDATED minimum but there is an invisible line in difference of weight where A FIGHT (not tomorrow's fight, but any fight) just can't go down, my example was 40 pounds, I said if a 135 pound fighter attempted to make a fight with a 175 pound champion it wouldn't matter that there is ZERO minimum weight limit like pullcounter says because no commission would let that happen anyway, he's basically saying it's possible when it's clearly not because no commission anywhere, anytime nor anyplace would allow it and 40 is a drastic example they wouldn't even let 30 pounds and I don't even think anything more than 20 pounds and I'm talking about weigh in weight not fight night weight

            my bad for the long rant, I try to cut down on that but I just want to solidify my point, I'm not arguing that there is no mandated minimum weight limit I'm simply saying you can't weigh TOO low compared to your opponent

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            • Pullcounter
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              #156
              Originally posted by crillz
              I'm simply saying you can't weigh TOO low compared to your opponent
              benny, please tell this guy there is no rule in boxing that says this.

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              • THE REED
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                #157
                I come back online and everyones pissed that Pac is so light?

                I mean I personally think it's not smart to be so light.. but to be mad about it?

                Theres no minimum weight.

                Floyd weighed 150 for a 154lb title.. whats the problem?

                Roy weighed 193 for a HW title?

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  listen up dummies cause you're about to get some education.

                  the maximum middleweight limit is 160 lbs.

                  the maximum jr middleweight limit is 154 lbs.

                  the maximum welterweight limit is 147 lbs.

                  the maximum jr welterweight limit is 140 lbs.

                  That means if JMM wants to fight martinez at 160 lbs, he can weigh 135 lbs and martinez can weigh 160 lbs and JMM can still win the title at middleweight.

                  when you use "160-155 lbs" to describe a middleweight bout, it's basically because most middleweights weigh around 160 to 155 lbs. however, it's possible for a one boxer to weigh 153 lbs and the other to weigh 160 lbs and the middleweight title will still be on the line for both.

                  what "160-155 lbs" really means is that the maximum limit for middleweight is 160 lbs and the maximum limit for jr middlweight is 154 lbs.

                  Thank you. I can't rep you enough.

                  If Anything, Pacquiao is even handicapping himself more weighing in at 144 for the 147-154 Super Welterweight fight....while Margo weighing it at 150 (perfectly in the SWW) while potentially ballooning as much as 160-165 at fight night.

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                  • crillz
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    I didn't make this thread because of you. you are not teh center of boxingscene. sorry to inform you.
                    If you saying you didn't then **** it you didn't but that wasn't my main argument with you anyway it was you telling me that it's possible for someone who weighs 135 to fight someone at 175 for a title as long as the 135'er doesn't exceed 175 and that is simply absurd, YOU claimed that there is no minimum weight limit so that situation is technically possible and I said you're wrong and even Benny agreed with me it wouldn't be possible technically or any other way you want to twist it

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                    • crillz
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      benny, please tell this guy there is no rule in boxing that says this.
                      since when do you know what the rule book says? what commission do you work for to talk about what is and what's not in the rule book? THIS IS JUST YOUR OPINION!

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