Floyd's random blood test demands were pointless

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  • VoodooChild
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    #11
    Originally posted by ModernTalking
    0 day or no fight

    Fighters should be clean, why do you think fighters under his promotion all take the test.
    All the fighters under Mayweather promotions take full year round OST? Do you have a citation for that?

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    • El Fenomeno
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      #12
      Originally posted by daggum
      because he was tested right before the morales fight and he thinks it affected him. he wants to make absolute sure that doesn't happen again. 7 days is a very reasonable compromise but floyd walked.
      We both know that's an easy get-out for Pac, the blood test before Morales had nothing to do with his performance, he was just outclassed. If he accepts the tests, Floyd fights. Simple as that.

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        #13
        Originally posted by CONORBOBWEAVE
        We both know that's an easy get-out for Pac, the blood test before Morales had nothing to do with his performance, he was just outclassed. If he accepts the tests, Floyd fights. Simple as that.
        yes we know that but does pac know that? he probably seriously believes that. the mental aspect of boxing plays a very big role. 7 days is very fair but floyd keeps moving the goal posts. he will never fight pacquiao.

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          #14
          Originally posted by damned1974
          Floyd gave no 19 day cut-off.That was at USADA's discretion,not Floyd nor Shane's.To be honest,this is the way it should be done-at strict drug enforcement's discretion. If Pac agrees to the tests without a cut-off date (which he said he needed a week),then he will subject himself to USADA's discretion and testing,not Floyd's....Floyd doesn't tell USADA what to do,or when to do it.I'm not sure how you have that twisted...I know why you do,but not how-lol
          Show me a link or quote of where Manny said that. The only quotes by Manny on the issue has him agreeing to any and all testing.

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          • ModernTalking
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            #15
            Originally posted by VoodooChild
            All the fighters under Mayweather promotions take full year round OST? Do you have a citation for that?
            They all take full OSDT which is 0 day. Why do you think Floyd said he was going to clean the sport up. PAC need to stop taking that same test that every other boxer is taking and move to the new OSDT that Mayweather and his stable are taking.
            Last edited by ModernTalking; 11-02-2010, 12:59 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by NesNY
              Roach: "Floyd just doesn't wanna fight Manny Pacquiao, that's the bottom line."

              Mayweather Sr: "I don't want my son fighting Manny Pacquiao."



              come on man. OST or not...that whole charade is a disgrace on boxing and utter bull****. Floyd Mayweather doesn't want to, and never wanted to, fight Manny Pacquiao.

              Reason: He doesn't need to. Manny doesn't need the fight either. Instead of $40m for one fight...these guys can make $20m in two easy fights.

              Manny can fight Margo (let's say an earnest $20m) and maybe JMM on Mexican Independence Day weekend (another $20m) and retire with two easy fights.

              Floyd fought old ass Shane ($25m was it?) and he can fight any other bum for another $20m and that's $45m for two EASY fights.


              they don't need each other. they will never fight.
              What you are saying in the highlighted area makes no sense.What you are implying is that a fighter like Manny or Floyd would rather go through 2-3 long and brutal training camps and months of sparring,as well as 2-3 fights just to make the same amount as one fight....think about it for a second.

              Even someone as affluent as Floyd or Manny would rather make 50+ million in one set of training camp and fight.Nobody would want to endure that 3 times (roughly 1 and 1/2 years for 3 fights) to make the same figure....it defies logic...

              The only way it makes sense is if Arum is milking Pac for a few "in-house" fights until he allows Manny to fight Floyd.I think this is the most likely scenario and is in Arum's best interest business-wise.He can make money off of Manny and his other fighters under the Top Rank banner,and then for Manny's last fight make millions more fighting Floyd.
              Last edited by damned1974; 11-02-2010, 12:54 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ModernTalking
                They all take full OSDT which is 0 day. Why do you think Floud said he was going to clean the sport up.


                You are so brainwashed by crackhead women-beaters, that's pathetic. Show me evidence that any other Golden Boy, Mayweather Promotions, or even Al Haymon fighter even applied OST during their negotiations/training. You got jobbed by a fraud and he ran out on you and left you to foot the bill. You're over here talking about how he's 'cleaning up the sport' while he's on 'vacation' beating his children's mother and stealing phones.

                Ridiculous

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  yes we know that but does pac know that? he probably seriously believes that. the mental aspect of boxing plays a very big role. 7 days is very fair but floyd keeps moving the goal posts. he will never fight pacquiao.
                  The "goal post" was only moved after it was rejected from Pac the first time.Pacquiao knew that it was going to be full randomized testing if he didn't accept the 2 week cut-off period during the first negotiations.Floyd had said this and Manny wanted the old offer during the 2nd "negotiations".....personally,he should just accept no cut-off period.It only serves him better in the public's eye. Why is taking randomized testing really that bad of an idea anyways?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by damned1974
                    The "goal post" was only moved after it was rejected from Pac the first time.Pacquiao knew that it was going to be full randomized testing if he didn't accept the 2 week cut-off period during the first negotiations.Floyd had said this and Manny wanted the old offer during the 2nd "negotiations".....personally,he should just accept no cut-off period.It only serves him better in the public's eye. Why is taking randomized testing really that bad of an idea anyways?
                    yea floyd moved the goal posts because he knew manny was coming for him. the actions of a scared man. if 14 days was good enough for the first negotiation what changed in a couple months? everyone involved thought it was fair and the fight was all but done but mayweather still refused to fight pac. why defend his ducking?

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                    • VoodooChild
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by damned1974
                      The "goal post" was only moved after it was rejected from Pac the first time.Pacquiao knew that it was going to be full randomized testing if he didn't accept the 2 week cut-off period during the first negotiations.Floyd had said this and Manny wanted the old offer during the 2nd "negotiations".....personally,he should just accept no cut-off period.It only serves him better in the public's eye. Why is taking randomized testing really that bad of an idea anyways?
                      It's bad when the only reason these "randomized tests" are being suggested is to mess with your superstitions. I like the idea of full year round OST testing not these fake disingenuous Mayweather tests.

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