Floyd's random blood test demands were pointless

[VoodooChild]

So then you are a firm believer in stagnation? There are laws that I agree with and ones that need updating due to progression as a society-should we adjust or fall behind???

Not at all, I believe that laws, and their progression should effect the society as a whole and not just target someone with a witch hunt.

[damned1974]

Yes it does, he gets more reps in because of it. Some people don't have great cardio so they take EPO; some people aren't very muscular so they take anabolics; and some people like Floyd have brittle hands so they take numbing agents.

Brittle hands will break with or without pain killers. Xylocaine does NOT prevent breaking or fracturing your hands....if anything,it could harm his hands further if he hit too hard and didn't feel it! Again, do you consider asprin a PED????

[damned1974]

Not at all, I believe that laws, and their progression should effect the society as a whole and not just target someone with a witch hunt.

Yet you make innuendos about Floyd taking a LEGAL pain killer and suggest that it should be banned...probably because you just don't like him,not because it relieves a fighters hands from pain.

Strict testing should apply to ALL fighters,not exclusive to one person.In fact,not one person should feel like they have to make any form of excuse when asked to take them before a major fight....If Floyd is a drug cheat as you suggest by implying Xylocaine being illegal, then what do you think of people who want to put time frames on RANDOM drug tests.....it doesn't look good no matter how you want to spin it.

The correct attitude is to assume EVERYONE in the sport is capable of abusing P.E.D's...

[VoodooChild]

Brittle hands will break with or without pain killers. Xylocaine does NOT prevent breaking or fracturing your hands....if anything,it could harm his hands further if he hit too hard and didn't feel it! Again, do you consider asprin a PED????

COULD but not always, Floyd's been lucky so far. Likewise Steroids can give a person Nasty side effects and could end up hurting your performance. Just like Floyd, people still take it

Aspirin? Well why not, according to the drug crusade by Floyd's fans anything is illegal(except for Xylocaine) if it's taken 14 or even 7 days before the fight.

[VoodooChild]

Yet you make innuendos about Floyd taking a LEGAL pain killer and suggest that it should be banned...probably because you just don't like him,not because it relieves a fighters hands from pain.

Strict testing should apply to ALL fighters,not exclusive to one person.In fact,not one person should feel like they have to make any form of excuse when asked to take them before a major fight....If Floyd is a drug cheat as you suggest by implying Xylocaine being illegal, then what do you think of people who want to put time frames on RANDOM drug tests.....it doesn't look good no matter how you want to spin it.

Once again legal where? If steroids like Xylocaine were legal in Nevada but not anywhere else would you be saying the same thing.

Strict testing should be applied to everyone and no one should be singled out, we agree. I don't have a problem with people putting time frames on this BS testing that Floyd is asking for. It is not year round so it is completely ineffective.

[damned1974]

COULD but not always, Floyd's been lucky so far. Likewise Steroids can give a person Nasty side effects and could end up hurting your performance. Just like Floyd, people still take it

Aspirin? Well why not, according to the drug crusade by Floyd's fans anything is illegal(except for Xylocaine) if it's taken 14 or even 7 days before the fight.

I have never heard ANY fan (of Floyd's or Manny's suggest aspirin is a PED),but the logic is idiotic.

It appears, with your logic, (from this conversation) that if you gamble in Vegas,you must be a criminal,because most states ban ********.

The only reason you want to debate about this is because Manny was asked to take these randomized tests....do you believe him to be incapable or too good to use PEDs or do you want him excluded from taking these tests?

[damned1974]

Once again legal where? If steroids like Xylocaine were legal in Nevada but not anywhere else would you be saying the same thing.

Strict testing should be applied to everyone and no one should be singled out, we agree. I don't have a problem with people putting time frames on this BS testing that Floyd is asking for. It is not year round so it is completely ineffective.

The problem (in your debate) is that xylocaine is actually LEGAL,so it nullifies the point you are trying to make and makes you look petty.

Worry about the banned substances,not the pain killers that are deemed legal.If it was illegal,you would have something that I can agree with,until then....

Would you suggest that Manny should do year round testing as opposed to just a few months? You know he would never agree to that,not without dictating a cut-off at some point!

[VoodooChild]

I have never heard ANY fan (of Floyd's or Manny's suggest aspirin is a PED),but the logic is idiotic.

It appears, with your logic, (from this conversation) that if you gamble in Vegas,you must be a criminal,because most states ban ********.

And by your logic you're saying the law is relative to where you are, am I correct?

The only reason you want to debate about this is because Manny was asked to take these randomized tests....do you believe him to be incapable or too good to use PEDs or do you want him excluded from taking these tests?

And the only reason you're debating this is because you don't like him. When Mosely and Vargas got busted where was the uproar for OST. No one gave 2 ****s about improving testing back then.

As for Manny, I don't think he should take these tests until they are year round and they are being implemented by the governing bodies or the promotions. Make it across the board.

[VoodooChild]

Going to sleep. Peace out damned1974

[damned1974]

And by your logic you're saying the law is relative to where you are, am I correct?



And the only reason you're debating this is because you don't like him. When Mosely and Vargas got busted where was the uproar for OST. No one gave 2 ****s about improving testing back then.

As for Manny, I don't think he should take these tests until they are year round and they are being implemented by the governing bodies or the promotions. Make it across the board.

Mosely was an admitted dirty fighter during the time he fought Oscar.That should be condemned and he should have had a discipline of some kind.The fact that he took the random tests showed that he wanted to correct the wrongs that he did and prove he is clean these days.If he would have made excuses and lied to the public of all of the imaginary phobias that Pac's team did-I would have deemed him to be suspect.

BTW-don't assume I don't like to watch Pac or Floyd fight. I watch BOTH of their fights,but I am not an exclusive fan of theirs....that is where you get your judgement clouded.Are we going to hear you scream if Floyd asks another fighter to take randomized testing?