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Breakdown of Mayweather's later career boxing (NO bs content, strictly boxing)

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  • #41
    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Going backward against Antonio Margarito is the worst thing you can do. You gotta be able to fight in the trenches with him (Santos, Williams, Mosley). Mayweather would be an idiot to fight him like that.
    going straight backwards into the ropes, i agree. but if u move backwards diagonally and circle in multiple directions, he can be beat easily. williams also had alot of success boxing him that way. I guess we'll see if it happens

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    • #42
      Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
      if he fight margarito, I betcha he do. lol
      Anybody strong enough to walk-down Shane Mosley will not have to back off Margarito.

      Tony is too squared-up...

      Floyd would jab his solar plexus to death then start raining shots over the top.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos View Post
        Cotto wasn't boxing anybody's sox off...

        He was getting hit and rough-up from the first bell.
        no he wasn't. i htink around the 7th he got tired and started laying on the ropes. if he was better condition he wins that fight easily!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
          no he wasn't. i htink around the 7th he got tired and started laying on the ropes. if he was better condition he wins that fight easily!
          You mean better defense.

          Getting walked-down is not outboxing a mofo.

          Cotto can't set the pace because he's not strong enough to control the center of the ring or tie-up when he feels like it.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos View Post
            Anybody strong enough to walk-down Shane Mosley will not have to back off Margarito.

            Tony is too squared-up...

            Floyd would jab his solar plexus to death then start raining shots over the top.
            ok, possibly. i think he will move but u never know he might stand his ground. in 41 fights he has fought almost 41 different ways so it remains to be seen.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos View Post
              You mean better defense.

              Getting walked-down is not outboxing a mofo.

              Cotto can't set the pace because he's not strong enough to control the center of the ring or tie-up when he feels like it.
              i don't think he got walked down becuase margarito just started moving faster. Cotto was dead tired and he couldn't out of the way without going straight backwards. his defense is his defense and that same defense had him boxing da hell of margarito for 6 rds straight. better condition and he wins easy.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                going straight backwards into the ropes, i agree. but if u move backwards diagonally and circle in multiple directions, he can be beat easily. williams also had alot of success boxing him that way. I guess we'll see if it happens
                That's true. but I don't see Floyd at this stage fighting like that. Maybe in spurts, at best.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Kimo View Post
                  People tend to see Mayweather as a very talented boxer with a sense of invincibility. The fight with Mosley made many people believe that Floyd was indeed human and could be caught with a decent shot. I tend to disagree, looking at Mosley's state in that fight it was a lucky shot that slowed Floyd down temporarily, but Shane failed to put him away, his stamina was ridiculous and he failed to apply any pressure whatsoever.

                  I see a bigger issue with Floyd's boxing, this doesn't really consider his defence per se. It has always been extremely good, but the issue with Floyd is that he's becoming too calculating, too defensive and especially too PASSIVE.

                  The fight with De La Hoya showed that clearly, it was a close fight. Not because De La Hoya provided stiff competition, in the rounds where Floyd let his hands go the difference became so apparent, any boxing fan could see Oscar was a class lower. The same happened with Ricky Hatton, as soon as Floyd started putting combinations together it resulted in total domination. These are all shades of the old Pretty Boy, not Money Mayweather.

                  It is no surprise to me that Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito, a pressure fighter like him could beat the above mentioned style of fighting, simply by overwhelming activity (and taking all his potshots with ease). It's not that I think he's a better fighter, but with this passive ring attitude Floyd could make it very easy to lose a decision against certain fighters. Frankly it also doesn't live up to his potential, which also kinda holds for his later career (but thats a different story).

                  Adding to this, you can't deny that he fights way more flat footed than before. I'm not suggesting his legs are gone like Roach, but again it does put him at risk against pressure fighters. It's a big difference with the past, just check it out.

                  Finally, it's been discussed too many times, but I just want to say to people that claim Mayweather will destroy fighters like Pacquiao or even Williams for that matter, think again. His later career style is very prone to being exploited by these types of fighters.

                  We all know Mayweather has the talent and skills, it's what he chooses to do in his head that severely affects the outcome of his career. This has made him a lot more vulnerable, not the destroying force he was in the lower weight classes. We just have not seen it yet due to the opponents he's fought. I would personally love to see him fight an A-class pressure fighter again, to bring back that movement and amazing boxing ability with vicious combinations. One can only hope...
                  This is what I've been saying all along
                  Last edited by DARKSEID; 10-28-2010, 01:51 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos View Post
                    Go troll somewhere else diicksucker.
                    go suck floyd's anus *****

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                      go suck floyd's anus *****
                      Climb back on Nanny's 3incher where you belong you dumb-ass ******* fool..

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