Breakdown of Mayweather's later career boxing (NO bs content, strictly boxing)

[FerdinandMarcos]

i don't think he got walked down becuase margarito just started moving faster. Cotto was dead tired and he couldn't out of the way without going straight backwards. his defense is his defense and that same defense had him boxing da hell of margarito for 6 rds straight. better condition and he wins easy.

He wasn't boxing the hell out of anybody for 6 rounds.

His ass was getting WORN DOWN from the jump.

[Mr. Philadel]

People tend to see Mayweather as a very talented boxer with a sense of invincibility. The fight with Mosley made many people believe that Floyd was indeed human and could be caught with a decent shot. I tend to disagree, looking at Mosley's state in that fight it was a lucky shot that slowed Floyd down temporarily, but Shane failed to put him away, his stamina was ridiculous and he failed to apply any pressure whatsoever.

I see a bigger issue with Floyd's boxing, this doesn't really consider his defence per se. It has always been extremely good, but the issue with Floyd is that he's becoming too calculating, too defensive and especially too PASSIVE.

The fight with De La Hoya showed that clearly, it was a close fight. Not because De La Hoya provided stiff competition, in the rounds where Floyd let his hands go the difference became so apparent, any boxing fan could see Oscar was a class lower. The same happened with Ricky Hatton, as soon as Floyd started putting combinations together it resulted in total domination. These are all shades of the old Pretty Boy, not Money Mayweather.

It is no surprise to me that Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito, a pressure fighter like him could beat the above mentioned style of fighting, simply by overwhelming activity (and taking all his potshots with ease). It's not that I think he's a better fighter, but with this passive ring attitude Floyd could make it very easy to lose a decision against certain fighters. Frankly it also doesn't live up to his potential, which also kinda holds for his later career (but thats a different story).

Adding to this, you can't deny that he fights way more flat footed than before. I'm not suggesting his legs are gone like Roach, but again it does put him at risk against pressure fighters. It's a big difference with the past, just check it out.

Finally, it's been discussed too many times, but I just want to say to people that claim Mayweather will destroy fighters like Pacquiao or even Williams for that matter, think again. His later career style is very prone to being exploited by these types of fighters.

We all know Mayweather has the talent and skills, it's what he chooses to do in his head that severely affects the outcome of his career. This has made him a lot more vulnerable, not the destroying force he was in the lower weight classes. We just have not seen it yet due to the opponents he's fought. I would personally love to see him fight an A-class pressure fighter again, to bring back that movement and amazing boxing ability with vicious combinations. One can only hope...

nice post....I just have one problem with it tho....wtf you mean Shane caught Floyd with a "LUCKY PUNCH"?!?....come on man

Shane set that shot up by jabbin to the body...that shot was worked on...trust me!!....Floyd was in his infamous stance...and got caught.....Shane tried to land the SAME shot with the SAME set up MANY MANY MANY more times but Floyd adjusted and NEVER got caught with that shot again....please watch the fight again and you'll see that it was no LUCKY PUNCH!!.....like I said, other than that...good post!!

[brick wall]

floyd's got brittle hands and he's trying to protect it that's why he's throwing less and less punches. but with an ego as big as floyd's he wouldn't admit it. he needs to take a break and rest his hands before taking a fight again especially with an opponent like pac. with an aggresive fighter and volume puncher like pac, floyd will be forced to punch back and use his hands more. if he hurts his hands early on the fight it's gonna be goodnight for floyd. that's gonna be floyd's biggest disadvantage, he can't slow down against pac because pac will bring the fight to him right in the very first minute of the first round.

[Pullcounter]

i don't think he got walked down becuase margarito just started moving faster. Cotto was dead tired and he couldn't out of the way without going straight backwards. his defense is his defense and that same defense had him boxing da hell of margarito for 6 rds straight. better condition and he wins easy.

i gotta agree. if cotto had better conditioning, he'd have boxed the **** outta margarito and won by UD.

however, floyd probably won't fight like that against margarito. wifebeater jr will stand right in front of margarito ducking and dodging margarito's wide hooks or catching margarito's body shots with his arms or shoulder-rolling the right hand. Then floyd will throw wicked counters down the middle, then push or elbow margarito. however, margarito might laugh off wifebeater's 1-punch-counters walking right through them all night. Mosley threw combinations at margarito, he didn't just throw 1 or 2 punches like wifebater jr does. Wifebeater jr would've won by a SD and it would've been a tough fight for wifebeater jr and made him look bad (that's why wifebeater jr ducked margarito, he even said he ducked margarito in that sirius radio show cause he "knew" something was up)

[Pullcounter]

Climb back on Nanny's 3incher where you belong you dumb-ass ******* fool..

stick your mouth where you mind is, on floyd's 1 incher ****-face *****.

[FerdinandMarcos]

stick your mouth where you mind is, on floyd's 1 incher ****-face *****.

You must have rabies like your ****less hero...sorry dress-wearin' biitch.

You're mind is on Floyd more than his fiance.

[FerdinandMarcos]

floyd's got brittle hands and he's trying to protect it that's why he's throwing less and less punches. but with an ego as big as floyd's he wouldn't admit it. he needs to take a break and rest his hands before taking a fight again especially with an opponent like pac. with an aggresive fighter and volume puncher like pac, floyd will be forced to punch back and use his hands more. if he hurts his hands early on the fight it's gonna be goodnight for floyd. that's gonna be floyd's biggest disadvantage, he can't slow down against pac because pac will bring the fight to him right in the very first minute of the first round.

Manny won't go near anybody with speed and movement.

Freddy was scared to put him in with Shane at 142.

[jrosales13]

Go troll somewhere else diicksucker.

go suck floyd's anus *****

Climb back on Nanny's 3incher where you belong you dumb-ass ******* fool..

stick your mouth where you mind is, on floyd's 1 incher ****-face *****.

Both of you childish mofo is bring this thread down which has great discussions. Both you should just leave this thread.

The TS strictly said in his title no "BW content, strictly boxing" and you guys come in here and act little kids.

Grow up.

You must have rabies like your ****less hero...sorry dress-wearin' biitch.

You're mind is on Floyd more than his fiance.

I am glad that you edit this post, because the original one was ban worthy. But, seriously take this somewhere else.

[$tate of Mind]

i agree and have said this before..floyd makes fights longer than they have to be..he is a very calcualated fighter and i cant deny its worked for him...but when he lets his hands go its a thing of beauty..he just doesnt wanna risk getting hit and i understand that..but if he let his hands go he wouldve stopped alot more fighters

If it aint broke don't fix it. What people fail to realize is that once Floyd adjusts and begins to time his opponents it discourages them from throwing. Floyd often stands right in front of his opponents daring them to throw. Opponents who continue to attack while getting countered can get dropped a la Hatton. If Floyd knows his opponent is scared to throw and he's up big on points why should he leave himself open to the possibility of getting caught? Floyd is often so far ahead on points that he simply cruises to victory. However, if he's pressed and in a competitive fight I think you'll see him let his hands go a lot more.

[DARKSEID]

Both of you childish mofo is bring this thread down which has great discussions. Both you should just leave this thread.

The TS strictly said in his title no "BW content, strictly boxing" and you guys come in here and act little kids.

Grow up.



I am glad that you edit this post, because the original one was ban worthy. But, seriously take this somewhere else.

/cosign...