Breakdown of Mayweather's later career boxing (NO bs content, strictly boxing)

[Kimo]

People tend to see Mayweather as a very talented boxer with a sense of invincibility. The fight with Mosley made many people believe that Floyd was indeed human and could be caught with a decent shot. I tend to disagree, looking at Mosley's state in that fight it was a lucky shot that slowed Floyd down temporarily, but Shane failed to put him away, his stamina was ridiculous and he failed to apply any pressure whatsoever.

I see a bigger issue with Floyd's boxing, this doesn't really consider his defence per se. It has always been extremely good, but the issue with Floyd is that he's becoming too calculating, too defensive and especially too PASSIVE.

The fight with De La Hoya showed that clearly, it was a close fight. Not because De La Hoya provided stiff competition, in the rounds where Floyd let his hands go the difference became so apparent, any boxing fan could see Oscar was a class lower. The same happened with Ricky Hatton, as soon as Floyd started putting combinations together it resulted in total domination. These are all shades of the old Pretty Boy, not Money Mayweather.

It is no surprise to me that Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito, a pressure fighter like him could beat the above mentioned style of fighting, simply by overwhelming activity (and taking all his potshots with ease). It's not that I think he's a better fighter, but with this passive ring attitude Floyd could make it very easy to lose a decision against certain fighters. Frankly it also doesn't live up to his potential, which also kinda holds for his later career (but thats a different story).

Adding to this, you can't deny that he fights way more flat footed than before. I'm not suggesting his legs are gone like Roach, but again it does put him at risk against pressure fighters. It's a big difference with the past, just check it out.

Finally, it's been discussed too many times, but I just want to say to people that claim Mayweather will destroy fighters like Pacquiao or even Williams for that matter, think again. His later career style is very prone to being exploited by these types of fighters.

We all know Mayweather has the talent and skills, it's what he chooses to do in his head that severely affects the outcome of his career. This has made him a lot more vulnerable, not the destroying force he was in the lower weight classes. We just have not seen it yet due to the opponents he's fought. I would personally love to see him fight an A-class pressure fighter again, to bring back that movement and amazing boxing ability with vicious combinations. One can only hope...

[MARKBNLV]

It's all about money if he were to take more risk's he might lose a fight,and in turn lose his 10 mill plus paydays.

[infamous larryx]

i agree and have said this before..floyd makes fights longer than they have to be..he is a very calcualated fighter and i cant deny its worked for him...but when he lets his hands go its a thing of beauty..he just doesnt wanna risk getting hit and i understand that..but if he let his hands go he wouldve stopped alot more fighters

[IMDAZED]

People tend to see Mayweather as a very talented boxer with a sense of invincibility. The fight with Mosley made many people believe that Floyd was indeed human and could be caught with a decent shot. I tend to disagree, looking at Mosley's state in that fight it was a lucky shot that slowed Floyd down temporarily, but Shane failed to put him away, his stamina was ridiculous and he failed to apply any pressure whatsoever.

I see a bigger issue with Floyd's boxing, this doesn't really consider his defence per se. It has always been extremely good, but the issue with Floyd is that he's becoming too calculating, too defensive and especially too PASSIVE.

The fight with De La Hoya showed that clearly, it was a close fight. Not because De La Hoya provided stiff competition, in the rounds where Floyd let his hands go the difference became so apparent, any boxing fan could see Oscar was a class lower. The same happened with Ricky Hatton, as soon as Floyd started putting combinations together it resulted in total domination. These are all shades of the old Pretty Boy, not Money Mayweather.

It is no surprise to me that Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito, a pressure fighter like him could beat the above mentioned style of fighting, simply by overwhelming activity (and taking all his potshots with ease). It's not that I think he's a better fighter, but with this passive ring attitude Floyd could make it very easy to lose a decision against certain fighters. Frankly it also doesn't live up to his potential, which also kinda holds for his later career (but thats a different story).

Adding to this, you can't deny that he fights way more flat footed than before. I'm not suggesting his legs are gone like Roach, but again it does put him at risk against pressure fighters. It's a big difference with the past, just check it out.

Finally, it's been discussed too many times, but I just want to say to people that claim Mayweather will destroy fighters like Pacquiao or even Williams for that matter, think again. His later career style is very prone to being exploited by these types of fighters.

We all know Mayweather has the talent and skills, it's what he chooses to do in his head that severely affects the outcome of his career. This has made him a lot more vulnerable, not the destroying force he was in the lower weight classes. We just have not seen it yet due to the opponents he's fought. I would personally love to see him fight an A-class pressure fighter again, to bring back that movement and amazing boxing ability with vicious combinations. One can only hope...

Excellent, excellent analysis. My sentiments exactly.

[Kimo]

Thanks dude, I really think it's shameful how much nonsense is being spewed over the internet that has nothing to do with boxing. I want to fight this crime with some well written discussions about BOXING. Nothing else.

[check hook]

People tend to see Mayweather as a very talented boxer with a sense of invincibility. The fight with Mosley made many people believe that Floyd was indeed human and could be caught with a decent shot. I tend to disagree, looking at Mosley's state in that fight it was a lucky shot that slowed Floyd down temporarily, but Shane failed to put him away, his stamina was ridiculous and he failed to apply any pressure whatsoever.

I see a bigger issue with Floyd's boxing, this doesn't really consider his defence per se. It has always been extremely good, but the issue with Floyd is that he's becoming too calculating, too defensive and especially too PASSIVE.

The fight with De La Hoya showed that clearly, it was a close fight. Not because De La Hoya provided stiff competition, in the rounds where Floyd let his hands go the difference became so apparent, any boxing fan could see Oscar was a class lower. The same happened with Ricky Hatton, as soon as Floyd started putting combinations together it resulted in total domination. These are all shades of the old Pretty Boy, not Money Mayweather.

It is no surprise to me that Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito, a pressure fighter like him could beat the above mentioned style of fighting, simply by overwhelming activity (and taking all his potshots with ease). It's not that I think he's a better fighter, but with this passive ring attitude Floyd could make it very easy to lose a decision against certain fighters. Frankly it also doesn't live up to his potential, which also kinda holds for his later career (but thats a different story).

Adding to this, you can't deny that he fights way more flat footed than before. I'm not suggesting his legs are gone like Roach, but again it does put him at risk against pressure fighters. It's a big difference with the past, just check it out.

Finally, it's been discussed too many times, but I just want to say to people that claim Mayweather will destroy fighters like Pacquiao or even Williams for that matter, think again. His later career style is very prone to being exploited by these types of fighters.

We all know Mayweather has the talent and skills, it's what he chooses to do in his head that severely affects the outcome of his career. This has made him a lot more vulnerable, not the destroying force he was in the lower weight classes. We just have not seen it yet due to the opponents he's fought. I would personally love to see him fight an A-class pressure fighter again, to bring back that movement and amazing boxing ability with vicious combinations. One can only hope...

good bro. Really good.

[Pacquiao'd]

well written. but i still think floyd schools and ko pac

[check hook]

i agree and have said this before..floyd makes fights longer than they have to be..he is a very calcualated fighter and i cant deny its worked for him...but when he lets his hands go its a thing of beauty..he just doesnt wanna risk getting hit and i understand that..but if he let his hands go he wouldve stopped alot more fighters

I mentioned in a thread a few days ago the slowed footspeed and movement into higher divisions (easier to get hurt and harder to hurt the opponent) has resulted in less combination punching from Floyd.

The TS in this case is right about a volume pressure fighter having the best shot. Margo and Pac have the best chance. I don't favour Williams because i view him as sloppy and not a fighter who uses his height advantage. He also needs room to throw. I see Floyd being able to smother him in the pocket and pick his spots.

Margarito and Pac present different challenges. Hatton was able to keep up with Mayweathe because of his footspeed. He was just too sloppy and underestimated Floyd's physical strength and ability to beat him inside.

[led]

People tend to see Mayweather as a very talented boxer with a sense of invincibility. The fight with Mosley made many people believe that Floyd was indeed human and could be caught with a decent shot. I tend to disagree, looking at Mosley's state in that fight it was a lucky shot that slowed Floyd down temporarily, but Shane failed to put him away, his stamina was ridiculous and he failed to apply any pressure whatsoever.

I see a bigger issue with Floyd's boxing, this doesn't really consider his defence per se. It has always been extremely good, but the issue with Floyd is that he's becoming too calculating, too defensive and especially too PASSIVE.

The fight with De La Hoya showed that clearly, it was a close fight. Not because De La Hoya provided stiff competition, in the rounds where Floyd let his hands go the difference became so apparent, any boxing fan could see Oscar was a class lower. The same happened with Ricky Hatton, as soon as Floyd started putting combinations together it resulted in total domination. These are all shades of the old Pretty Boy, not Money Mayweather.

It is no surprise to me that Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito, a pressure fighter like him could beat the above mentioned style of fighting, simply by overwhelming activity (and taking all his potshots with ease). It's not that I think he's a better fighter, but with this passive ring attitude Floyd could make it very easy to lose a decision against certain fighters. Frankly it also doesn't live up to his potential, which also kinda holds for his later career (but thats a different story).

Adding to this, you can't deny that he fights way more flat footed than before. I'm not suggesting his legs are gone like Roach, but again it does put him at risk against pressure fighters. It's a big difference with the past, just check it out.

Finally, it's been discussed too many times, but I just want to say to people that claim Mayweather will destroy fighters like Pacquiao or even Williams for that matter, think again. His later career style is very prone to being exploited by these types of fighters.

We all know Mayweather has the talent and skills, it's what he chooses to do in his head that severely affects the outcome of his career. This has made him a lot more vulnerable, not the destroying force he was in the lower weight classes. We just have not seen it yet due to the opponents he's fought. I would personally love to see him fight an A-class pressure fighter again, to bring back that movement and amazing boxing ability with vicious combinations. One can only hope...

hope a well-pondered analysis like this wouldnt go into a thread of war.

nice one bro!

[NesNY]

130lb Floyd fought at ATG-level passion and skill.

After Castillo II, his best fight has been Judah...and even that came with controversy since Zab claims he was choked out.

I seriously think Mayweather started doubting himself, if ever so slightly, the more he moved up in weight. It's only natural.

But damn...130lb Floyd, brittle hands and all, was a monster.