Breakdown of Mayweather's later career boxing (NO bs content, strictly boxing)

[cortdawg25]

Nice analysis, but I don't think that at all. Floyd can still move and throw combos if he needs to, but he waits for the right time. with Hatton, he was settign that check hook all night. u can't throw the check hook unless your opponent is coming in and getting to you. so if you moving, then check hook will not be as effective.

He fought flat footed against mosley because mosley struggles fighting backwards. also if you noticed after he got hurt, the next rd he stepped it up drastically. He put his hands together in 2 punch combos instead of pot shotting. Floyd does what is necessary and at the right time. he not gon show u everyhting up front and then give you time to adjust and time him.

his phrase he says everytime is exactly what he does..." take them in deep waters and drown them."

[IMDAZED]

Nice analysis, but I don't think that at all. Floyd can still move and throw combos if he needs to, but he waits for the right time. with Hatton, he was settign that check hook all night. u can't throw the check hook unless your opponent is coming in and getting to you. so if you moving, then check hook will not be as effective.

He fought flat footed against mosley because mosley struggles fighting backwards. also if you noticed after he got hurt, the next rd he stepped it up drastically. He put his hands together in 2 punch combos instead of pot shotting. Floyd does what is necessary and at the right time. he not gon show u everyhting up front and then give you time to adjust and time him.

his phrase he says everytime is exactly what he does..." take them in deep waters and drown them."

Floyd can't move his legs like he used to. Been that way for a while now and is going to get worse.

[V.WEBB]

Floyd can't move his legs like he used to. Been that way for a while now and is going to get worse.

Right. Father time waits for no man. I also think this is why Floyd is much more of a cerebral fighter now as well. He still has good speed and pop, but he winning because he is outsmarting his opponents.

[cortdawg25]

Floyd can't move his legs like he used to. Been that way for a while now and is going to get worse.

of course he can't move like he did at 130, but he can still move. some u guys act like he is just immobile now. his legs not shot like roy jones legs are. there is no need to move against around like that against mosley. who has beat mosley moving around like that!

[boomboomboom]

Great thread!

[IMDAZED]

of course he can't move like he did at 130, but he can still move. some u guys act like he is just immobile now. his legs not shot like roy jones legs are. there is no need to move against around like that against mosley. who has beat mosley moving around like that!

His legs aren't shot but he is now a flat-footed fighter. He was once fleet-footed.

[Kimo]

of course he can't move like he did at 130, but he can still move. some u guys act like he is just immobile now. his legs not shot like roy jones legs are. there is no need to move against around like that against mosley. who has beat mosley moving around like that!

It's not really the point, of course he's not immobile.

But I could never think of a way Floyd at 130 could be beat. It was the perfect combination of movement, agression and boxing.

Now there's quite a few opponents out there that can make his life miserable. He knows this, that is why he avoids a certain type of fighter.

edit: I think it's also not so much capability as his comfort zone. An opponent that pushes him to the limit could bring out the monster boxer that he is (people say that was Mosley I disagree). It's not exactly like he's exhausted or barely makes the end of fights.

[IMDAZED]

Right. Father time waits for no man. I also think this is why Floyd is much more of a cerebral fighter now as well. He still has good speed and pop, but he winning because he is outsmarting his opponents.

Yup. He is slowing down...slowly but surely.

[odogg8121]

People tend to see Mayweather as a very talented boxer with a sense of invincibility. The fight with Mosley made many people believe that Floyd was indeed human and could be caught with a decent shot. I tend to disagree, looking at Mosley's state in that fight it was a lucky shot that slowed Floyd down temporarily, but Shane failed to put him away, his stamina was ridiculous and he failed to apply any pressure whatsoever.

I see a bigger issue with Floyd's boxing, this doesn't really consider his defence per se. It has always been extremely good, but the issue with Floyd is that he's becoming too calculating, too defensive and especially too PASSIVE.

The fight with De La Hoya showed that clearly, it was a close fight. Not because De La Hoya provided stiff competition, in the rounds where Floyd let his hands go the difference became so apparent, any boxing fan could see Oscar was a class lower. The same happened with Ricky Hatton, as soon as Floyd started putting combinations together it resulted in total domination. These are all shades of the old Pretty Boy, not Money Mayweather.

It is no surprise to me that Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito, a pressure fighter like him could beat the above mentioned style of fighting, simply by overwhelming activity (and taking all his potshots with ease). It's not that I think he's a better fighter, but with this passive ring attitude Floyd could make it very easy to lose a decision against certain fighters. Frankly it also doesn't live up to his potential, which also kinda holds for his later career (but thats a different story).

Adding to this, you can't deny that he fights way more flat footed than before. I'm not suggesting his legs are gone like Roach, but again it does put him at risk against pressure fighters. It's a big difference with the past, just check it out.

Finally, it's been discussed too many times, but I just want to say to people that claim Mayweather will destroy fighters like Pacquiao or even Williams for that matter, think again. His later career style is very prone to being exploited by these types of fighters.

We all know Mayweather has the talent and skills, it's what he chooses to do in his head that severely affects the outcome of his career. This has made him a lot more vulnerable, not the destroying force he was in the lower weight classes. We just have not seen it yet due to the opponents he's fought. I would personally love to see him fight an A-class pressure fighter again, to bring back that movement and amazing boxing ability with vicious combinations. One can only hope...

Great, great post. I agree with it all

[Juof]

i agree with this post, mayweather is probably my favourite fighter but i must agree hes no as fast as he used to be, but he is alot smarter imo idk why he wont sign the fight against pacquiao, personally i think hes waiting for pacquiao to lose so he can say he dont have to fight him, then again if he thinks waiting a few years will slow pac down he can think again because he'll be even slower himself. i just wish they'd get it on i think pacquiao has more physical attributes at this stage but mayweather is alot smarter imo