Yes Margarito doesn't deserve the fight with Pac but......

[jrosales13]

Jro,he doesn't deserve it but Ur glad he got it??I guess,I mean there are elite fighters at 154 who labor there constantly but somehow,Margarito who little over a year ago was caught red handed trying to cheat against Mosley,then there's Pacman,a great talent no doubt,but has no credentials yet both are fighting for a title of 154 at a catchweight!!What about the guys that go in there & duke it out at 154 day in & out,what about them!!He doesn't deserve it but ur glad he got it??

Yes I am happy for Marg that he is getting this payday.

The fight is B.S, the catch-weight, and vacant title is all crap. Pac should be fighting more deserving fighters. And, I have no problem with people criticizing him for it.

However, I am happy for Marg that he is getting this payday. And, if he wins as a Pac fan it would suck. But, I would be happy for Marg. If I could pick a fighter that I would like to beat Pac. It would be Marg or Bradley.

[Horus]

I never said Cotto, I am talking about Marg and the other guy I only mentioned was Johnstong.

However, if you really read that. It says that Floyd could of fought Marg for 8mil in August or Nov and then buyout his contract.

April 9, 2006 Zab Judah


Contract extention expired in May 2006.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight.

So How could the fight been done in August or November and still buyout of his contract?

If Arum wouldnt fulfilled Mayweather requirments for a contract extention.
(8M Margarito, $10M Miguel Cotto, and $10M Ricky Hatton)

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

Dont rewrite history.

1. Mayweather wanted to fight De la hoya.
2. Arum didnt want Mayweather to fight De la hoya.

Result:November 4, 2006 146 Carlos Manuel Baldomir: $8 Million.

be back in couple hours.

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but Garcia was a fringe contender at best so beating him should have done nothing for Tony's rankings


for a title? yes it's a load of crap both fighters IMO did nothing to deserve the belt
however if you are worried about Tony they view this as welterweight + 3 so those hard pounds fighters have to lose during fight week will not be an issue

Freddie was right this should have been at welter but it's not and what Manny and his team thought was an advantage for them making the bigger man come down, they forgot Tony was essentially a career welter to begin with

cosign..............

[HARLEM AL]

*Wipes azz with bull**** azz thread*

[jrosales13]

April 9, 2006 Zab Judah


Contract extention expired in May 2006.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight.

So How could the fight been done in August or November and still buyout of his contract?

If Arum wouldnt fulfilled Mayweather requirments for a contract extention.
(8M Margarito, $10M Miguel Cotto, and $10M Ricky Hatton)

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

Dont rewrite history.




November 4, 2006 146 Carlos Manuel Baldomir: $8 Million.

be back in couple hours.

In that same article where you like to quote Arum. He also said he would have granted an extension to the buyout window if Floyd want it.

So don't bother coming back

[Eaner0919]

cosign..............

everyone knows my relationship with the team but I even told his manager when it was signed that neither deserved to fight for the belt

[jrosales13]

everyone knows my relationship with the team but I even told his manager when it was signed that neither deserved to fight for the belt

True and I agree.

However, I am happy that Marg is getting this payday and I would be really happy for him if he wins.

That was really the point of this thread that got lost somewhere.

[IronDanHamza]

The guarantee held no water cuz nothing was signed. That is why after Judah lost they went on to re-negotiate and Judah accepted less money because lets face it he just lost to a journeyman. So if Floyd is offering a fight he is going to take it no matter if it was less money.

But, since nothing was signed Floyd could of fought anther fighter. He should of fought Baldo instead and he should of fought Margo instead of Baldo.

Yeah i agree that would have been ideal, and yeah they had to 're-negotiate' but it was one of those where he was garanteed behind the scenes, he had an agreement to fight Judah, so he had to do it pretty much. It was the choice between Baldomir and Margarito where he had the choice, and its a tough one, but he choose Baldomir, who was a weaker option theres definitely a case that he flat out avoided Margarito, im not dis*****g that, but i just dont think its a clear as day situation.

[pistol whip]

Still don't understand how two fighters with 10 title wins between them and have been fixture on the PFP list for the last 5 years suddenly don't deserve a title shot

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everyone knows my relationship with the team but I even told his manager when it was signed that neither deserved to fight for the belt

Thats why you are one of the best poster on this site.