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  • VERSION1 (V1)
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    I am happy for him that he is getting it and getting a career high payday for it.

    He should of have gotten big money fights in 06, he should of gotten this payday or more so in 08 after Cotto.

    But, 2 of the biggest names avoided him. NO top WW dared to mention his name for the first half of the decade.

    Never got the respect he deserves for having arguably having the best WW resume in the last 10 years.

    Yes he might be a disgraced fighter now, due to the Shane and wraps scandal. But, I am happy he is getting paid now.

    As a Pac fan, this fight does nothing for Pac. Manny should be fighting more deserving fighters. But, as a Marg I like that he is getting the opportunity.

    As a Pac fan it would suck if he lost to Marg. But, if Pac has to lose I would like to be to Marg. I am still rooting for Pac and hope he wins. Which I think he will. However, as a Marg fan I would be happy for him if he could pull off the upset.

    That is all.
    Tony got his big shot vs cotto and wont then in his next fight he got caught tring to cheat and lose that fight.
    That cost him this shot a pacman he should fight a better fighter than gracia to earn a shot at the p4p king

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      #42
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      Yup exactly right people forget that Margarito is a 3 time world champion and beat some pretty damn good boxers to get those titles.

      And all this talk about Paul William is a little much. A middleweight fighting a small junior welter is a little ridiculous. Margarito is already a ***ing giant compared to Pac and I seriously think that some of you are so blinded by Pac hate that you would have him fight Lucian Bute if you could.
      with or without tainted gloves?

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        #43
        Originally posted by yesir
        we dont know. but we cant say thats was his first time, either. therefore, his wins are suspect. so we can say how good he actually was

        marg wasnt the lineal champ, so he wasnt superior.
        Lineal champ does not mean superiority. Was Dariusz superior than Roy Jones?

        Was Liles superiot than James Toney? Was Little superior than Roy Jones.

        Lineal champ means you beat the man that beat the man. However, it doesn't mean that you're the best in the division.

        Marg was superior than Baldo at the time. Marg was the best WW at the time. Marg was just the better fighter> than Baldo was. to say other wise is just really ******ed.

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          #44
          Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1)
          Tony got his big shot vs cotto and wont then in his next fight he got caught tring to cheat and lose that fight.
          That cost him this shot a pacman he should fight a better fighter than gracia to earn a shot at the p4p king

          3 time champions and former number 1 welterweights of the world don't deserve titleshots now? WTF? Seriously you people act like everyone is a 3 time champion or something like they give the titles to just anyone who walks by off the streets.

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            #45
            Originally posted by VERSION1 (V1)
            Tony got his big shot vs cotto and wont then in his next fight he got caught tring to cheat and lose that fight.
            That cost him this shot a pacman he should fight a better fighter than gracia to earn a shot at the p4p king
            Should Pac fight Marg? No

            But, I am very happy that Marg is getting his money.

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              #46
              for you, jro and all the other liars claiming floyd avoided marg and cotto
              Originally posted by Horus
              BOB ARUM: "MAYWEATHER would have taken the $8 million to fight MARGARITO."



              What Arum wouldn't do, he said,was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
              ($10M Miguel Cotto and $10M Ricky Hatton)

              Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million
              http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

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                #47
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Lineal champ does not mean superiority. Was Dariusz superior than Roy Jones?

                Was Liles superiot than James Toney? Was Little superior than Roy Jones.

                Lineal champ means you beat the man that beat the man. However, it doesn't mean that you're the best in the division.

                Marg was superior than Baldo at the time. Marg was the best WW at the time. Marg was just the better fighter> than Baldo was. to say other wise is just really ******ed.
                Baldo beat the man who beat the man. and again, we dont know how many fights marg used plaster. so we cant say how good he was.

                to say otherwise is ******ed
                Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 10-26-2010, 11:36 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by yesir
                  for you, jro and all the other liars claiming floyd avoided marg and cotto
                  i think floyd actually wanted to fight cotto at 140 i believe

                  but he claims that he would have got 8 mil to fight Marg and he got 12 for fighting Baldomir but some guy at Maxboxing reckons he only got 6

                  Baldomir was the weak link out of the champions at 147 which is why Floyd chose him over Marg let's be real
                  Last edited by ghost deini; 10-26-2010, 11:37 AM.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by yesir
                    Baldo beat the man who beat the man. and again, we dont know how many fights marg used plaster. so we cant say how good he was
                    Just a better fighter than Baldo period..

                    If he was using plaster in 06 why didn't Clottey nor P-Will suffer from it? P-Will trainer said nothing was wrong with the wraps. P-Will himself said that Marg punches didn't feel abnormal And, they fought in 07 and we talking about 06.

                    I am sorry I think those 2 would know a little bit more than us. Plus Nevada is different from Cali, so you have to look at their rule book to really understand.

                    Steward has been in the game for years and he should know when something is legit or not. To think Marg could just fool everybody for years then that is just crazy.

                    Anyways, I would take P-Will, Peterson, and Steward word.

                    And, lineal champ doesn't mean best man.

                    Again Roy>Dariusz and Little, Toney>Liles.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ghost deini
                      i think floyd actually wanted to fight cotto at 140 i believe

                      but he claims that he would have got 8 mil to fight Marg and he got 12 for fighting Baldomir but some guy at Maxboxing reckons he only got 6
                      arum stated what happened. arum didnt want to page. i posted links-per horus on the other page

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