Yes Margarito doesn't deserve the fight with Pac but......

[IronDanHamza]

No he should of fought Baldo instead of Judah.

And, he should of fought Marg in Nov of 06. Plus he was getting the same guarantee but not the same necessary the same money. Marg had a bigger fanbase than Baldo. So the more people would of bought that PPV.

And, yes Marg>Baldo to say otherwise is just ridiculous. Yes Baldo was the man who beat the man. But, Marg was the better WW and better fighter.

And, yes Floyd avoided Marg. Not saying he was scared. But, he avoided him.

Stop acting like Floyd never avoided anybody in his career. Marg and Johnston are 2 fighters that Floyd avoided.

In fairness, Judah was garanteed the Mayweather fight, because everybody who is everybody expected Judah to beat Baldomir, but obviously, he didn't. Thats why Mayweather fought Judah at that time.

The choice he had on the table was Baldomir (the lineal champ) or Margarito (the clearly better fighter), for the same money (i think) so it was a tough one for him.

Who was more deserving? I actually thinks thats quite a tough one too, Of course you instantly think Margarito, as hes better and has a better resume, but at the same time, Baldomir did the impossible, the beat a string of good fighters and became the Lineal Champ, something no one expected, and being the champ, surely you deserve a shot at the p4p#1 if your the champ in his weight class. But then again, was Margarito not the champ because Judah wouldnt fight him? Maybe, we will never know. I think its a tough one call in the terms of did he avoid him, theres no doubt a case for it but i dont think its clear as day, my opinion anyway.

[pistol whip]

for you, jro and all the other liars claiming floyd avoided marg and cotto

Ugh yeah you seem to confuse some of us with people who actually give a *** how much a fighter makes. I don't especially when we are talking about 7million dollars which is more money than what 99% of all boxers combined will make in their entire careers.

[Pacquiao'd]

i think floyd actually wanted to fight cotto at 140 i believe

but he claims that he would have got 8 mil to fight Marg and he got 12 for fighting Baldomir but some guy at Maxboxing reckons he only got 6

Baldomir was the weak link out of the champions at 147 which is why Floyd chose him over Marg let's be real

arum didnt want to pay. you be, REAL

BOB ARUM: "MAYWEATHER would have taken the $8 million to fight MARGARITO."

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351154

What Arum wouldn't do, he said,was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
($10M Miguel Cotto and $10M Ricky Hatton)

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

[jrosales13]

for you, jro and all the other liars claiming floyd avoided marg and cotto

I never said Cotto, I am talking about Marg and the other guy I only mentioned was Johnstong.

However, if you really read that. It says that Floyd could of fought Marg for 8mil in August or Nov and then buyout his contract.

[Chups]

pac didnt accept zero days. he wanted 7 days which they knew floyd wouldnt accept so pac ducked twice

Who cares? Pac doesn't need him.


"Compare my accomplishment to his"

[Pacquiao'd]

Just a better fighter than Baldo period..

If he was using plaster in 06 why didn't Clottey nor P-Will suffer from it? P-Will trainer said nothing was wrong with the wraps. P-Will himself said that Marg punches didn't feel abnormal And, they fought in 07 and we talking about 06.

I am sorry I think those 2 would know a little bit more than us. Plus Nevada is different from Cali, so you have to look at their rule book to really understand.

Steward has been in the game for years and he should know when something is legit or not. To think Marg could just fool everybody for years then that is just crazy.

Anyways, I would take P-Will, Peterson, and Steward word.

And, lineal champ doesn't mean best man.

Again Roy>Dariusz and Little, Toney>Liles.

cotto didnt know but has spoken about it. so what do you have to say to that

[jrosales13]

In fairness, Judah was garanteed the Mayweather fight, because everybody who is everybody expected Judah to beat Baldomir, but obviously, he didn't. Thats why Mayweather fought Judah at that time.

The choice he had on the table was Baldomir (the lineal champ) or Margarito (the clearly better fighter), for the same money (i think) so it was a tough one for him.

Who was more deserving? I actually thinks thats quite a tough one too, Of course you instantly think Margarito, as hes better and has a better resume, but at the same time, Baldomir did the impossible, the beat a string of good fighters and became the Lineal Champ, something no one expected, and being the champ, surely you deserve a shot at the p4p#1 if your the champ in his weight class. But then again, was Margarito not the champ because Judah wouldnt fight him? Maybe, we will never know. I think its a tough one call in the terms of did he avoid him, theres no doubt a case for it but i dont think its clear as day, my opinion anyway.

The guarantee held no water cuz nothing was signed. That is why after Judah lost they went on to re-negotiate and Judah accepted less money because lets face it he just lost to a journeyman. So if Floyd is offering a fight he is going to take it no matter if it was less money.

But, since nothing was signed Floyd could of fought anther fighter. He should of fought Baldo instead and he should of fought Margo instead of Baldo.

[Iceta Lives]

What makes this a bullshitfight to me is the fact that it's at a catch weight and for a belt. I still think Margarito is probably more dangerous than some of the guys out there. Angulo has issues with the visa. Alexander doesn't deserve a shot at Pacquiao based on his fight against Kotelnik. Floyd ducked the fight. Bradley I think would give Pac a tough fight maybe, but he's the only guy I can think of that's really earned a shot.

I kind of agree with this thread overall.

[pistol whip]

cotto didnt know but has spoken about it. so what do you have to say to that

What? Was that in english? What are you talking about?

[Pacquiao'd]

I never said Cotto, I am talking about Marg and the other guy I only mentioned was Johnstong.

However, if you really read that. It says that Floyd could of fought Marg for 8mil in August or Nov and then buyout his contract.

floyd wanted arum to set up fights for 10 each with cotto and hatton if he fought marg.

maybe you should read. he was using marg as leverage to get paydays with hatton and cotto. arum didnt want to pay so he walked