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  • nick_shela318
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    #141
    Originally posted by slindee3
    Stop smoking crack. Neither one of the Klits could have hung with Tyson, Holyfield or Bowe in their prime. These guys look invincible now because the HW division is in the dumps.

    Briggs is old and washed up and is nowhere near the fighter he was in his prime. He's an easy target so he took more punishment than he would have in his hay day, so it appears to him as if Klit is a superior fighter.
    yeah i so agree.They both are ok boxers with a deadly jab. They put themselves out to be fighters who cherry pick their fights

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      #142
      Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
      FAO: the ****** JoeyZagz

      Lewis got brutally KTFO by Rahman

      Wlad easily destroyed Rahman

      Wlad completely dominated and KO'd Prime Jameel McCline (who KO'd Michael Grant in the 1st round) Wlad's win over Prime McCline SHITS ALL OVER Lewis's win over Grant.

      Like I said before, Lewis was badly hurt several times and was out on his feet against Briggs. 40 year old Vitali completely dominated every second of every round and destroyed Briggs.


      Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

      THE TRUTH

      Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.

      Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis was badly hurt and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round. Lewis was getting outboxed, outworked, outlanded and was hurt several times in the fight.

      punches landed

      Vitali 156

      Lewis 102


      Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

      All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.

      Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.

      Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.

      Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.

      Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.



      George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"

      Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"

      Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.

      Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.
      How about acknowledging the fact that Lewis was able to show the heart of a champion late in his career and land a very damaging blow and while losing the fight Lewis showed that he was the true champion and landed the shots needed to dispose of Vitali and win the fight.

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        #143
        Originally posted by dorruel2.0
        im not hating im saying the truth. Ill even explain myself. The only truly great heavy either klitchko has faced was Lewis. We all know what happened there.Everybody else on their record is decent at best. If you disagree cool, name me the best fighters on their resume.
        Vitali may have also been the best fighter Lewis ever faced. Unless of course you want to count a past his prime Holyfield who Lewis happened to outweigh by 30 pounds or a five years or so past his prime Mike Tyson. Other that that Lewis doesn't have any great names on his resume. And if he does tell me who they are.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
          Briggs speaks the truth.

          Vitali is a monster. He beats any HW from any era.
          A prime Ali would box Vitali's ears off....also a prime Foreman would knock some sense into both he and his brother. It's the reach and height advantages man, they are both pretty good boxers, I'll give them that. They have so many advantages though, they will never face a tough challenge from these smaller guys


          ***Plus on a side note,Lewis came back and utterly destroyed Rahman too

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            #145
            Originally posted by Ravens Fan
            Vitali may have also been the best fighter Lewis ever faced. Unless of course you want to count a past his prime Holyfield who Lewis happened to outweigh by 30 pounds or a five years or so past his prime Mike Tyson. Other that that Lewis doesn't have any great names on his resume. And if he does tell me who they are.



            Unlike Vitali,lewis cleared his division and beat all top contenders.He didnt cherry pick old shot unranked contenders like Vitali has always done,he fought them all.


            Lennox Lewis is a legend and an ATG,Quitali isnt.

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              #146
              Originally posted by mathed
              A prime Ali would box Vitali's ears off....also a prime Foreman would knock some sense into both he and his brother. It's the reach and height advantages man, they are both pretty good boxers, I'll give them that. They have so many advantages though, they will never face a tough challenge from these smaller guys
              Ali was much smaller than they are, and in his prime he never had to face anyone who had even close to the combination of being as tall, as athletic and as skilled as they now are. Foreman in his prime went life and death with Lyle and lost to Young, who was similar in terms of skills and speed to Byrd. While Ali and Foreman have superior resumes (vastly superior in Ali's case) to either of the K bros, and will be higher in the ATG rankings for that reason (especially Ali), in a fantasy match-up with the current version of either brother, both of whom have greatly improved in terms of ring generalship and in learning how to fight tall and control distance in recent years, it would be a pick 'em fight.

              It's too easy to judge the brothers on how they were 5 or more years ago. They have both improved a lot since then, especially Wlad. It's just extremely unfortunate, for them and for boxing, that there's no one around who can really test them and provide a proper yardstick - but that isn't their fault.
              Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-18-2010, 08:32 PM.

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                #147
                Originally posted by Dan Vida
                Unlike Vitali,lewis cleared his division and beat all top contenders.He didnt cherry pick old shot unranked contenders like Vitali has always done,he fought them all.


                Lennox Lewis is a legend and an ATG,Quitali isnt.
                Vitali and Wlad between them have cleaned out the division, and have fought all the top contenders who are willing to fight them.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  Ali was much smaller than they are, and in his prime he never had to face anyone who had even close to the combination of being as tall, as athletic and as skilled as they now are. Foreman in his prime went life and death with Lyle and lost to Young, who was similar in terms of skills and speed to Byrd. While Ali and Foreman have superior resumes (vastly superior in Ali's case) to either of the K bros, and will be higher in the ATG rankings for that reason (especially Ali), in a fantasy match-up with the current version of either brother, both of whom have greatly improved in terms of ring generalship and in learning how to fight tall and control distance in recent years, it would be a pick 'em fight.

                  It's too easy to judge the brothers on how they were 5 or more years ago. They have both improved a lot since then, especially Wlad. It's just extremely unfortunate, for them and for boxing, that there's no one around who can really test them and provide a proper yardstick - but that isn't their fault.
                  I agree, that they can't really be blamed for their genetics. I used to get mad at them for picking on smaller guys I guess but they have to fight somebody. I think that Ali's use of the jab and his mobility would allow him to get in and do some serious damage. Norton i think would be able to catch them with a bomb..at least he would be throwing punches unlike Briggs

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    Vitali and Wlad between them have cleaned out the division, and have fought all the top contenders who are willing to fight them.
                    No Wladimir is clearing the division not Vitali.Wladimirs(as much as I dont like him) work is his own work and why he ranks much higher than Vitali.beating the likes of kevin johnson,sosnowski and shannon briggs isnt clearing the division out.Vitali has cherry picked his entire career.

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                    • Dave Rado
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      I agree, that they can't really be blamed for their genetics. I used to get mad at them for picking on smaller guys I guess but they have to fight somebody. I think that Ali's use of the jab and his mobility would allow him to get in and do some serious damage.
                      Wlad's has an ATG jab, and is deceptively quick. Vitali has a very hurtful and deceptively fast jab as well. Both in their current versions are superb at controlling distance. Their footwork is under-estimated as well. I don't think it's a slam dunk at all that Ali would be able to out-jab either of them. Especially because both of them are good at fighting off the back foot, and Ali preferred to fight going backwards himself. He struggled when he had to go looking for his opponent.

                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Norton i think would be able to catch them with a bomb..at least he would be throwing punches unlike Briggs
                      Norton froze against Foreman, who was the only really big Heavyweight he fought.

                      Or did you mean Foreman when you said Norton? If so, in his prime Foreman threw telegraphed round-house punches, and while it's possible that he'd have landed one, I certainly don't think that's a slam dunk either. Jimmy Young had no trouble seeing them coming.
                      Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-18-2010, 09:04 PM.

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