Judging by todays standards Floyd's win over Baldomir is totally legit.

[Bushbaby]

Who would you like to see Pac fight at 154?
Don't forget to consider Manny is on his way out of boxing, so the fight needs to sell.

Well,the Punisher was available,as was Martinez,the European cat undefeated wouldn't have turned that fight down,Angulo made his splash,I can go on,but every last 1 of these guys were available before Pacman chose his cheating stablemate!!

[Bushbaby]

And Travis,i believe without question that Pacman vs anyone I just mentioned sells greatly & comes with more respect than a Margarito fight!!Who wouldn't gladly caugh up 50 bucks to watch Pacman take on the Punisher,seriously??

[TRAV1$]

Well,the Punisher was available,as was Martinez,the European cat undefeated wouldn't have turned that fight down,Angulo made his splash,I can go on,but every last 1 of these guys were available before Pacman chose his cheating stablemate!!

Manny doesn't even make 147
So it's not respectable for Pac to fight a new comer to 154 for a vacant belt, but it would be fine for two guys who are fighting at around 160 to fight a 5"6 welterweight?
Angulo isn't a big enough name.

[Bushbaby]

media + public pressure numb nuts....the Pac fight fell through and the only legit opponent at 147 that was left was the number one ranked WW. Who else could he have fought at 147 that the public and media would have accepted except for Shane Mosley after the Pac fight fell through. *** you are incredibly ******!!!!!!!

Manny doesn't even make 147
So it's not respectable for Pac to fight a new comer to 154 for a vacant belt, but it would be fine for two guys who are fighting at 160 to fight a 5"6 welterweight?
Angulo isn't a big enough name.

Why does that sound so familiar,hmmmmmmmmm,oh yeah,that's the same excuse Floyd fans used for him at 147!!But in Pacman's case it's ok!?

Anyone can talk about Floyd,but he does have Mosley on his resume!!By impressive fashion!!I think a win over Mosley bosses on a catchweight win over Cotto,but that's just di Bushbaby!!

[TRAV1$]

What are you talking about?
I told you why those names are not viable opponents
Nothing to do with Mayweather.

[Bushbaby]

What are you talking about?
I told you why those names are not viable opponents
Nothing to do with Mayweather.

Ha,the best at 154 weren't viable enough to fight Pacman,but a proven cheater at a catchweight is & the excuse is because Pacman doesn't even make 147!!What I was talking about was "That's the same excuse that Floyd fans have used for Floyd"!!"Well Floyd doesn't even make the welterweight limit,same thing U said about Pacman"!!

[TRAV1$]

Ha,the best at 154 weren't viable enough to fight Pacman,but a proven cheater at a catchweight is & the excuse is because Pacman doesn't even make 147!!What I was talking about was "That's the same excuse that Floyd fans have used for Floyd"!!"Well Floyd doesn't even make the welterweight limit,same thing U said about Pacman"!!

Hate to tell you, that's how boxing works
There may be better fighters out there at 154, but the risk/reward ratio isn't good enough
If Pac was coming through the ranks and really wanted to make a mark on the 154 division, then he would clearly need to go for the big guys eventually.

[Bushbaby]

Hate to tell you, that's how boxing works
There may be better fighters out there at 154, but the risk/reward ratio isn't good enough
If Pac was coming through the ranks and really wanted to make a mark on the 154 division, then he would clearly need to go for the big guys eventually.

It's there that find my problem,it's just wrong when Floyd does it,but acceptable when Pacman does,it is what's wrong with boxing!!

[TRAV1$]

It's there that find my problem,it's just wrong when Floyd does it,but acceptable when Pacman does,it is what's wrong with boxing!!

When did Floyd do it?
Floyd ducked all the best fighters in his own division
Atleast there's reasons to Pac not fighting say Sergio Martinez.

[Bushbaby]

When did Floyd do it?
Floyd ducked all the best fighters in his own division
Atleast there's reasons to Pac not fighting say Sergio Martinez.

Aw man,I thought we came to an agreement,oh well here goes,I was talking about when U,a Pacman supporter said that Pacman doesn't even make welterweight to fight.That used to be the number 1 excuse for Floyd not fighting elite fighters above 140!!Now the same people who critisized Floyd for that use that same excuse themselves for Pacman fighting Cotto at catchweight & then him fighting Margarito at catchweight!!But U must understand that I do not support Floyd,I just have come to realize that Pacman does the same thing,but gets away with it!!