Is Cotto SCARED of Paul Williams?

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  • theplayerpimp
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    #51
    Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
    Paul calls out everyody including his momma, because he is a nobody that begs for fights. The moment he had just a bit of leverage, he turn into a diva and outprice himself.
    haha thats the excuse all you ricans use when a fight is not made. Dont you see a recuring theme where arum is the one saying they price them selfs out just to make easier fights for his fighters or make in house fights. its the same thing he did with lopez saying that cab priced himself out.

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      #52
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I did mine and maybe you should.

      Well maybe we going by different rankings. What rankings are you going by that P-Will was rank ahead of Shane as in late 2007?

      Well if he did wanted to fight why did P-Will get stripped? If anything they would of had a new mandatory. But, P-Will thought Jennings was a big enough name and just want to fight bigger names so he decided other weight-classes.

      No, Cotto wasn't his mandatory. After Quintana the mandatory position was vacant. I felt he should of fought Quintana a third time around this time. However, Jennings became the Mandatory and Cotto was ranked #2 or #3 by the WBO I can't remember.
      why the f..ck would he fight quintana again after he had just destroyed him?

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        #53
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I did mine and maybe you should.

        Well maybe we going by different rankings. What rankings are you going by that P-Will was rank ahead of Shane as in late 2007?

        Well if he did wanted to fight why did P-Will get stripped? If anything they would of had a new mandatory. But, P-Will thought Jennings was a big enough name and just want to fight bigger names so he decided other weight-classes.

        No, Cotto wasn't his mandatory. After Quintana the mandatory position was vacant. I felt he should of fought Quintana a third time around this time. However, Jennings became the Mandatory and Cotto was ranked #2 or #3 by the WBO I can't remember.
        Jennings was the mandatory, and when he ducked the Verno Phillips HBO date, they turned to #2 Cotto, who also ducked Paul. Instead of waiting the 6 months to find another mandatory they fought Verno at 154 to keep the HBO date and the WBO stripped him. NO welterweight would step up to the plate. Mosley was not ranked ahead of Paul after the Margarito win, anywhere that I ever saw, especially because of a win over Collazo. Paul was a champ with a win over Margarito. Mosley lost to Winky twice, had no strap, and only beat Collazo.

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          #54
          Originally posted by theplayerpimp
          why the f..ck would he fight quintana again after he had just destroyed him?
          A rubber match and it was 1-1. And, he was looking for a WW to fight and he woudln't have been stripped for his title.

          I think that were enough reason. Especially since he fought Andy Kolle at MW.

          Call me crazy but I think a third fight with Quintana even after being destroyed is more credible than Andy Kolle at MW. Do you not agree?

          However, I do get trying to test the waters at MW. I really do understand the point. However, the Quintana option to me was more viable for his WW career. Just my opinion.

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            #55
            Wasn't cotto suppose to fight Paul when marg lost to him?

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              #56
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              A rubber match and it was 1-1. And, he was looking for a WW to fight and he woudln't have been stripped for his title.

              I think that were enough reason. Especially since he fought Andy Kolle at MW.

              Call me crazy but I think a third fight with Quintana even after being destroyed is more credible than Andy Kolle at MW. Do you not agree?

              However, I do get trying to test the waters at MW. I really do understand the point. However, the Quintana option to me was more viable for his WW career. Just my opinion.
              ??? He took the Kolle fight in between his HBO dates. It was on Versus. HBO didn't want another Quintana fight after Paul starched him in a minute so they took on Verno for the 154 WBO title. Because Cotto and Jennings ducked him.

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                #57
                Originally posted by HARLEM AL
                Wasn't cotto suppose to fight Paul when marg lost to him?
                Yup. Arum didn't want any part of that.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
                  Jennings was the mandatory, and when he ducked the Verno Phillips HBO date, they turned to #2 Cotto, who also ducked Paul. Instead of waiting the 6 months to find another mandatory they fought Verno at 154 to keep the HBO date and the WBO stripped him. NO welterweight would step up to the plate. Mosley was not ranked ahead of Paul after the Margarito win, anywhere that I ever saw, especially because of a win over Collazo. Paul was a champ with a win over Margarito. Mosley lost to Winky twice, had no strap, and only beat Collazo.
                  So we cleared it up that Cotto was never his mandatory right? At best he was #2.

                  Mosley was ranked higher by The Ring. And, who cares that he lost to Winky Wright at 154 3 YEARS earlier. It seems like you just talking without really looking at a timeline. Anyways 154 has nothing to do with 147 rankings. Why would you bring up a fight that happen 3 years earler in a whole other division. I have no idea. But, after Collazo, Floyd was the ring/lineal/WBC champ, Cotto rank #1, Shane #2, and P-Will #3, Margarito #4. These were the rankings by The Ring. Then when Cotto beat Shane, P-Will moved up to #2, and Shane down to #3, Cotto stayed at #1, and Marg at #4 after his win over Golden Johnson. Again by The Ring. That is why I asked what rankings are you going by since it might be different.

                  Again if the WBO was giving him 6 months to find a new mandatory then they would not have stripped him. It makes no sense bro think about it.

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                    #59
                    The Ring? Their rankings were influenced by GB even before the sale. How could Mosley be ranked ahead of a champion that beat #2 Margarito (behind Floyd)? Doesn't even make sense. Cotto became the mandatory after Jennings ducked. Cotto did too. WBO had no fighter to fight Paul that would keep his HBO date so he took on Verno.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      A rubber match and it was 1-1. And, he was looking for a WW to fight and he woudln't have been stripped for his title.

                      I think that were enough reason. Especially since he fought Andy Kolle at MW.

                      Call me crazy but I think a third fight with Quintana even after being destroyed is more credible than Andy Kolle at MW. Do you not agree?

                      However, I do get trying to test the waters at MW. I really do understand the point. However, the Quintana option to me was more viable for his WW career. Just my opinion.
                      no it wasnt plus i don't think hbo wanted that fight plus no fan would want to see it after quintana being destroyed like that. He was just trying to open up more doors for himself since none of the big names would even consider fighing him. I don't think cotto would ever get in the ring with paul or any other welter like berto shane floyd or pac they just use the hes unknown excuse but yet they fight guys like mora clottey gomez who are even less unknown than paul who has hbos backing

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