Is Cotto SCARED of Paul Williams?

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  • jrosales13
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    #71
    Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
    Cotto ducked him twice!!!! Quintana wasn't ready for the Versus date he just got starched and was on AC suspension!!!!
    Not true, that is just the way you see it I guess.

    We just going to go around in circles. We would agree to disagree.

    I honestly don't an honest timeline when they could have fought.

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    • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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      #72
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I guess, I didn't seen those rankings at the time. So I don't know I can't say. But, I will take your word for it.

      However, I do know that The Ring had Shane higher. and stop bring up the belt that means ****.

      Should Pac or Floyd fight Berto or K9 instead of P-Will cuz they have belts and P-Will doesn't?

      I mean you see how silly that sounds. The belt means nothing IMO just cuz they're all corrupt IMO.

      However, to me Shane was the right fight at the time. I honestly can't see how anybody can say different.
      in this post u contradict ur whole hypothesis! boxrec dnt make u an expert dude. the timeline shield can be used to justify any fighters unwillingness to fight the "BEST". So sit down and have a tall glass of STFU.

      Bottomline: cotto can fight who he pleases BUT he picks n chooses like the rest of these frauds. PERIOD.

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      • FaustoGeraci
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        #73
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I guess, I didn't seen those rankings at the time. So I don't know I can't say. But, I will take your word for it.

        However, I do know that The Ring had Shane higher. and stop bring up the belt that means ****.

        Should Pac or Floyd fight Berto or K9 instead of P-Will cuz they have belts and P-Will doesn't?

        I mean you see how silly that sounds. The belt means nothing IMO just cuz they're all corrupt IMO.

        However, to me Shane was the right fight at the time. I honestly can't see how anybody can say different.
        Williams had just beaten Margarito and was undefeated. Mosley had been lackluster at WW and fought fringe contenders. Williams would have beaten Cotto senseless and Miguel outboxed Mosley. That was not the fight to be made.

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          #74
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Again HBO didn't want P-Will-Kolle either and it still happened.

          I am sorry a third fight with Quintana>Kolle

          But, whatever the point is Cotto never ducked P-Will. The timing was just never right for them to fight. People just don't consider the timeline at the time.

          I think should finally be very possible next year.
          Was HBO interested in a third fight with Quintana? They weren't interested in the second, which was on Showtime. It seemed that Williams was just getting in where he could fit in, taking fights on any station and staying busy. He took a tuneup and at least made it interesting by moving up to 160. And flattened the guy in a minute.

          Anyway, I don't think Miguel Cotto is afraid of Paul Williams. He's not afraid of anyone. People get too caught up in that. When you're competing at that level, while you respect the other elites around you, you will also see the flaws you might be able to capitalize on. Williams wouldn't have an easy fight with Cotto, BTW. But I also think Cotto had opportunities to fight Williams. Like all other fighters on Top Rank, it really wasn't his decision to make anyway.

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          • FaustoGeraci
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            #75
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Well P4P really means nothing though.

            That is not divisional rankings.

            Like you mentioned ESPN. and I think that ESPN has Moreno at #5 or not even at the top 5 at bantamweight and that to me is more laughable since it is a divisional(Which should be about facts) ranking compared to a mythical opinion based ranking.

            Do you not agree?
            I tried finding the rankings for back then. Couldn't. I know everyone had it Floyd, Paul and Cotto at the top 3. Agree to disagree, cool. Bottom line is Paul would have ran through Cotto.

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            • B.U.R.N.E.R
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              #76
              Williams is one of the most ducked Welters I have ever seen. Shyt was ridicoulous.

              Mosley
              Berto
              Cintron
              Clottey
              Cotto
              Margarito( didnt want to fight him at first)
              Floyd
              Pacquiao
              Collazo



              How the **** does none of those happen.

              Props to Quintana and Margarito for stepping up to the plate.
              Last edited by B.U.R.N.E.R; 10-05-2010, 08:44 PM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Williams is one of the most ducked Welters I have ever seen. Shyt was ridicoulous.

                Mosley
                Berto
                Cintron
                Clottey
                Cotto
                Margarito( didnt want to fight him)
                Floyd
                Pacquiao
                Collazo



                How the **** does none of those happen.
                no 1 fears that tall skinney bum

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                • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
                  I tried finding the rankings for back then. Couldn't. I know everyone had it Floyd, Paul and Cotto at the top 3. Agree to disagree, cool. Bottom line is Paul would have ran through Cotto.
                  No one knows the rankings by heart from 3-4 years ago.

                  I need to see a link to some rankings because Cotto couldve fought Williams. He just chose to fight other people instead.

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                  • jrosales13
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by TheSurgeonMDMPH
                    in this post u contradict ur whole hypothesis! boxrec dnt make u an expert dude. the timeline shield can be used to justify any fighters unwillingness to fight the "BEST". So sit down and have a tall glass of STFU.

                    Bottomline: cotto can fight who he pleases BUT he picks n chooses like the rest of these frauds. PERIOD.
                    OK, good debate.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by manny is god
                      no 1 fears that tall skinney bum
                      Take the MannyPac Mafia logo out of your sig

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