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  • Stl_Buay
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    #31
    Originally posted by hitking
    Let me get this straight, Pac wouldn't agree to 14 days the first time around and walked. Then, 5 months after Money said no cutoff would be accepted, Pac agrees to 14 days. Now, that Money's life is a complete mess and boxing is the least of his worries, Pac agrees to the full USADA testng. Kudos to him, but this would have been so much more meaningful say this past Jan.
    1st Manny agreed to Floyds Test in June, keep in mind they are Floyd test that no other boxer does. June was before Mayweather decided to play Cowboy with his Baby Mama!

    2nd Guess what the UFC just busted a guy with the testing already in place.

    3rd The first time Manny cut off the blood at 14 days, he said you can collect piss and hair everyday until the fight which sounds more than reasonable and fair.

    NEWSFLASH, IT WAS NEVER ABOUT TESTING!!!! That's why Floyd fought 40 times under the current rules. He wants you to beleive he never heard of steriods until 2009. Remember the Marquez fight in September of 2009 NO SPECIAL TEST!!! Floyd is full of it and he beats women, what an *******.
    Last edited by Stl_Buay; 10-01-2010, 07:25 PM.

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    • hitking
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      #32
      Originally posted by Stl_Buay
      1st Manny agreed to Floyds Test in June, keep in mind they are Floyd test that no other boxer does. June was before Mayweather decided to play Cowboy with his Baby Mama!

      2nd Guess what the UFC just busted a guy with the testing already in place.

      3rd The first time Manny cut off the blood at 14 days, he said you can collect piss and hair everyday until the fight which sounds more than reasonable and fair.

      NEWSFLASH, IT WAS NEVER ABOUT TESTING!!!! That's why Floyd fought 40 times under the current rules. He wants you to beleive he never heard of steriods until 2009. Remember the Marquez fight in September of 2009 NO SPECIAL TEST!!! Floyd is full of it and he beats women, what an *******.
      OK, but if the USADA testing isn't a problem, why just not agree the first time around? Why agree to **** that you all ready know won't be accepted? And why finally agree to something he should have agreed months ago when a guy's life is in shambles? I mean,this fight would have happen back in March if Pac had the stance he's taking now. I mean, its testing for **** that he's not supposed to be doing anyway. I never saw the big deal, IF HE'S CLEAN!!!

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      • Blubba
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        #33
        Originally posted by hitking
        OK, but if the USADA testing isn't a problem, why just not agree the first time around? Why agree to **** that you all ready know won't be accepted? And why finally agree to something he should have agreed months ago when a guy's life is in shambles? I mean,this fight would have happen back in March if Pac had the stance he's taking now. I mean, its testing for **** that he's not supposed to be doing anyway. I never saw the big deal, IF HE'S CLEAN!!!
        he agreed b4 the guy's life went into shamble mode. all extra test agreed then floyd said he dont feel like fighting and went on vacation, next came the racist videos and beat baby mama drama.

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        • Stl_Buay
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          #34
          Originally posted by hitking
          OK, but if the USADA testing isn't a problem, why just not agree the first time around? Why agree to **** that you all ready know won't be accepted? And why finally agree to something he should have agreed months ago when a guy's life is in shambles? I mean,this fight would have happen back in March if Pac had the stance he's taking now. I mean, its testing for **** that he's not supposed to be doing anyway. I never saw the big deal, IF HE'S CLEAN!!!
          Once again, he agreed before Floyd beat up his Baby Mama in front of the kids. Why even ask for a useless test steriods is not Viagra you can't just take it one day and be a stud. They need to be cycled on and off. The current system would catch the user 99% of the time because of the pre fight physicals and post fight test. Nothing is perfect not even the USDA. The UFC guy just got caught and boxers have been caught before. Plus the USDA doesn't prove you are clean remember Marion Jones?????? It's all BS just use the rules the athletic commission put in place. NO other profesional sports use USDA. Floyd has really fooled some people. So I turn the question back to you. If its such a concern why noy ask for it your first 40 fights???? Do you bone a chick 40 times and then decide you must have a condom on the 41st time??????? Its all BS 99.9999% of boxing matches in the past 20 years have taken place without USDA a testing, steriod have been in sports since the 1930s, so who is the one being dificult????????
          Last edited by Stl_Buay; 10-01-2010, 08:14 PM.

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          • hitking
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            #35
            Originally posted by Blubba
            he agreed b4 the guy's life went into shamble mode. all extra test agreed then floyd said he dont feel like fighting and went on vacation, next came the racist videos and beat baby mama drama.
            It was my understanding in the last set of negotiations/non-negotiations that Pac agreed to a 14 day cutoff. If he agreed to the full USADA program, good for him. That said, I still think money is gonna be a problem. I know that Pac's people said he would agree to anything less that 50/50. And as it stands, the numbers dictate that Mayweather should get a larger slice of the purse. So unless Pacquaio-Margarito does a million PPV units, that's gonna be an issue. I don't have a problem with Mayweather not fighting again this year. He's only fought once a year in his return, so that's nothing outta the norm. I think the fight happens next summer, if Money get his legal woes in order.

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            • hitking
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              #36
              Originally posted by Stl_Buay
              Once again, he agreed before Floyd beat up his Baby Mama in front of the kids. Why even ask for a useless test steriods is not Viagra you can't just take it one day and be a stud. They need to be cycled on and off. The current system would catch the user 99% of the time because of the pre fight physicals and post fight test. Nothing is perfect not even the USDA. The UFC guy just got caught and boxers have been caught before. Plus the USDA doesn't prove you are clean remember Marion Jones?????? It's all BS just use the rules the athletic commission put in place. NO other profesional sports use USDA. Floyd has really fooled some people. So I turn the question back to you. If its such a concern why noy ask for it your first 40 fights???? Do you bone a chick 40 times and then decide you must have a condom on the 41st time??????? Its all BS 99.9999% of boxing matches in the past 20 years have taken place without USDA a testing, steriod have been in sports since the 1930s, so who is the one being dificult????????
              If he agreed, good for him for stepping up doing the right thing.

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              • straightleft
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                #37
                Originally posted by hitking
                Let me get this straight, Pac wouldn't agree to 14 days the first time around and walked. Then, 5 months after Money said no cutoff would be accepted, Pac agrees to 14 days. Now, that Money's life is a complete mess and boxing is the least of his worries, Pac agrees to the full USADA testng. Kudos to him, but this would have been so much more meaningful say this past Jan.
                Its so simple but the *****s failed miserably to understand why Pac did not agreed to 14 days cut off during the first negotiation. You see...Floyd did not ask OST on his previous 40 fights. After the Mayweathers slandering and accusing Pac was on something even though still many months before the actual negotiation took place. Adding to the insult after the Mayweathers family trying to destroy Pacs reputation they asked for OST in which Pac at first rejected the idea. Why? You see..Pac passed all the tests, the same test that Floyd took to all his 40 fights. Besides Pac is a welterweight champ, p4p no.1, 3 times FOY and FOD. I mean he is far more accomplish than Floyd and he should the one dictates this fight. Pac trying to save the fight proposed his 24 days cut off, daily urine test if they want and blood test right after the fight against their 14 days cut off. As we know the fight fell apart because of this. *****s are so dumb they don't know in every negoitations if failed the first time. There are always a 2nd, 3rd or 4th times to do it until they sorted out all the problems. HBO Sport President and Pacquiao agreed to Full OST was trying to solve the problems preventing this fight to materialize but in Mayweathers part he did nothing but quite, his actions denying the negotiation, telling no urge to box anymore when the media asked him about the Pac fight and went to vacation after everything failed. What is that supposed to mean?
                Last edited by straightleft; 10-01-2010, 08:33 PM.

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                • Stl_Buay
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hitking
                  If he agreed, good for him for stepping up doing the right thing.
                  You are a cool dude. I just think you are off base. The USDA is not the end all of testing. NFL, NBA, NHL, etc. etc. doesn't use the USDA. The cut off was agreed to the first time. The second time Manny agreed to Floyd's terms. There are experts who handle this. Nevada just looked into doing a new testing system and decided to keep the one they have in place. Of course the USDA says their testing is the only way because if pro sports decide to use them their stock shares would go up 100%. Manny did NOT do the right thing agreeing to Floyd's demands. What's next Kobe and Lebron not playing each other over testing. Follow the rules in place and go about the right way to change them. Floyd has not done one thing to change the testing in boxing. When have you heard steriods come out of Floyd's mouth until he was told to fight Pac, 1996 - 2009????? The experts know more about drug testing than the Mayweathers period and no state has adopted USDA testing. Nobody is even concerned about testing for any other major fight, so why Mayweather???? Plain and simple he doesn't want to fight Pac....

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                  • hitking
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Stl_Buay
                    You are a cool dude. I just think you are off base. The USDA is not the end all of testing. NFL, NBA, NHL, etc. etc. doesn't use the USDA. The cut off was agreed to the first time. The second time Manny agreed to Floyd's terms. There are experts who handle this. Nevada just looked into doing a new testing system and decided to keep the one they have in place. Of course the USDA says their testing is the only way because if pro sports decide to use them their stock shares would go up 100%. Manny did NOT do the right thing agreeing to Floyd's demands. What's next Kobe and Lebron not playing each other over testing. Follow the rules in place and go about the right way to change them. Floyd has not done one thing to change the testing in boxing. When have you heard steriods come out of Floyd's mouth until he was told to fight Pac, 1996 - 2009????? The experts know more about drug testing than the Mayweathers period and no state has adopted USDA testing. Nobody is even concerned about testing for any other major fight, so why Mayweather???? Plain and simple he doesn't want to fight Pac....
                    Bruh, don't buy into the Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquaio nonsense. These are professional fighters. I don't know how long you've been following boxing, but Mayweather has allegedly been ducking everyone his entire career. Larry Merchant actually accused Mayweather of ducking Juan Lazcano after he chose to move up to 140. He's been on the cover of The Ring magazine accused of ducking Hatton when he chose to move up to welter and fight the then champ Judah. He was accused of ducking Mosley. Now, he's blasted for KOing Hatton and embarrassing Mosley. He'll fight Pac, but he's gonna do it when he gets ready. If you guys have noticed, he's only fought once a year in his return. He's fought this year, and says he's fighting Pac next year. If he veers from that, then there may be some validation to him avoiding the little guy, especially if he fights someone else. But until this, I think all this ducker this, ducker that talk is senseless horse****.

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                    • devildg
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                      #40
                      Mayweather definitely doesnt want the fight, according to how he acted.

                      We only judge fighters by their actions, not what Mayweather's fans tell us what Mayweather wants.

                      And like what most old school boxers like Gerry Cooney have said, steroid testing is bull****.

                      How long have steroids been an issue in sports? How long as this clown been a professional and an OLYMPIAN to boot. He didnt ask for any testing for his previous opponents

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