Comments Thread For: Arum: Mayweather Must Beat Legal Issues To Get Pacquiao

[Stl_Buay]

STL, I don't really care too much about the USADA testing thing, so I'm finished talking about it. But if you want to discuss Mayweather's resume, here we go. I don't think even his most diehard of fans try and claim he's al ATG welterweight. But you, like a lot of his critics, fail to realize is that this guy started his career at 130. And he's beaten the reigning lineal champion at 130, lightweight, 140 (Hatton in a welterweight fight), and welterweight. And he beat de la Hoya when he was agruably the top guy at 154. So his body of work speaks for itself. People bust on him for Baldomir, but Baldomir was the universally recognized welterweight champion when he fought him. I've been following boxing for two decades and I've never seen a guy take as much criticism for moving up in weight and beating the real champion in a division like Mayweather has for beating Baldomir. And personally, I feel the age of fighters is irrelevant. All you can go on is what a fighter's status is when a guy fights him. Ya'll bust on him for fighting Mosley. But the reality is, Mosley had destroyed Margarito in his previous fight, was considered the top guy at welter, and was the consensus P4P #3. And since you're a Pacquaio guy, Freddie Roach flat out said that that Mosley was too good to fight at the welterweight limit. So age aside, Mayweather embarrased a guy that Pac's people were leary about him fighting. So there's no way as a Pacquaio fan you can bust on Mayweather for beating the guy.

You started the whole drug test thing just like your boy. I have no problem with him fighting Baldomir or Judah. I have a problem with him not fighting at least one or two of Cotto, Pac, Cintron, Clottey, Margarito, Berto, Williams (when) he was a welter but yet those guys managed to fight at least one of the group. But yet he claims he is number one. U say they were scared of Mosley but yet they fought and KOed Cotto who beat Mosley. Oscar was not a top guy at 154 at the time. Age makes a difference the 36 year old Ali was different than the 26, 30, and 32 year old Ali.

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In my world, drugs is a very black and white subject. I'm the type of person that feels clean people don't worry about ANY type of drug testing, peroid. If a person wanted to come and pluck hairs from my sack right now, I wouldn't object because I don't use drugs. I don't care about Mayweather's motives for asking for the testing. My opinion has been, and will remain that clean people don't care about being tested any where, any way, or at any time. That's just my opinion. The truth is, if you took Pac's stance with your employer, you would be fired. Because in the real world a refused test is a positive one. If everyone at you job takes one piss test when they're hired and never tests again. But, your supervisor comes to you on a weekly basis asking you to give a blood sample for a random drug test. You may not like it. It may not be fair. But if you refuse or say, ytou can only test me on Mondays, you'll be fired. I looked at Pac the same way. This is my last post on drug testing. First of all I don't care about it. Second of all Pac supposedly has agreed, so its a pointless and moot debate.

Yep its my world as well , you cant argue with these fanboys they have no logic and they run on very selective hype , not dates and facts , these idiots dont have a chronological order to their argument and pull something that totally contradicts what was said earlier , they are super selective fanboys nothing more , Floyd hasnt changed his story and makes no comment yet Team Pac put out a new story concerning Floyd weekly , they could have just said yeah ok in March instead of initially saying yes and using it at the 10th hour to avoid the fight and sign Clottey in a day ,, dont waste your time getting into drawn out threads with these fools , you have already slapped them , they only run off and hide in the end anyway because they have nothing but ever changing bull**** , we will have to start calling him Manny 10 truths Pac .

[hitking]

You started the whole drug test thing just like your boy. I have no problem with him fighting Baldomir or Judah. I have a problem with him not fighting at least one or two of Cotto, Pac, Cintron, Clottey, Margarito, Berto, Williams (when) he was a welter but yet those guys managed to fight at least one of the group. But yet he claims he is number one. U say they were scared of Mosley but yet they fought and KOed Cotto who beat Mosley. Oscar was not a top guy at 154 at the time. Age makes a difference the 36 year old Ali was different than the 26, 30, and 32 year old Ali.

I said de la Hoya was arguably the top guy at 154. I think the other beltholders were Vernon Forrest and Cory Spinks when Mayweather fought him. Winky had vacated the lineal strap and there was no clear cut top guy. As for Cotto beating Mosley. Yeah, he did, but it was a razor-thin decision that quite a few peope thought Mosley won. I beleiev that fight was in 2007. Cotto went on and was KO'd by Margarito who was KO'd by Mosley. The entire Mosley, Cotto, Margarito triangle was pretty muched looked at as if the guys were equals. And when Pac fought Cotto, Mosley was rated higher than Cotto not only as a welterweight but P4P. Mosley was looked at as a much bigger threat.

As for te ages, you act as if Mayweather is 25 bruh. I think he was 30 when hit the welterweight division. So its not as if he's Chad Dawson fighting Johnson and Tarver. Money's been in the game a long time too.

[Stl_Buay]

In my world, drugs is a very black and white subject. I'm the type of person that feels clean people don't worry about ANY type of drug testing, peroid. If a person wanted to come and pluck hairs from my sack right now, I wouldn't object because I don't use drugs. I don't care about Mayweather's motives for asking for the testing. My opinion has been, and will remain that clean people don't care about being tested any where, any way, or at any time. That's just my opinion. The truth is, if you took Pac's stance with your employer, you would be fired. Because in the real world a refused test is a positive one. If everyone at you job takes one piss test when they're hired and never tests again. But, your supervisor comes to you on a weekly basis asking you to give a blood sample for a random drug test. You may not like it. It may not be fair. But if you refuse or say, ytou can only test me on Mondays, you'll be fired. I looked at Pac the same way. This is my last post on drug testing. First of all I don't care about it. Second of all Pac supposedly has agreed, so its a pointless and moot debate.

Dude you are making no sense if your employer said we are only going to test you and not the previous 40 employees and change the drug testing rules for you and you only. You would say no and sue the employer. But you are wrong Floyd is not the employer in this case. The NSAC is the employer here and Floyd is just another employee. Employees don't mandate drug test for other employees. I got pulled over and I don't sell drugs or do anything illegal and the cop asked can he search my car and trunk and I said sure with probable cause and a warrant. I guess going by your logic I had something to hide????

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Dude you are making no sense if your employer said we are only going to test you and not the previous 40 employees and change the drug testing rules for you and you only. You would say no and sue the employer. But you are wrong Floyd is not the employer in this case. The NSAC is the employer here and Floyd is just another employee. Employees don't mandate drug test for other employees. I got pulled over and I don't sell drugs or do anything illegal and the cop asked can he search my car and trunk and I said sure with probable cause and a warrant. I guess going by your logic I had something to hide????

Its not a job interview ****** , its a mega sporting event of superbowl proportions or bigger , *** off with your lame ass its like if you bull**** , if ***en nothing ,,,,, people cheat ya clown and for a dam lot less than these two will get paid , in this epic event one opponent asked the other to take the same test as him for PEDS and he said ***ing NO and you attack the guy asking and defend the guy saying NO ,,, get real mate your a ***ing child looking only at hype fanboy bull**** and not the reality and bottom line of this .

[hitking]

Dude you are making no sense if your employer said we are only going to test you and not the previous 40 employees and change the drug testing rules for you and you only. You would say no and sue the employer. But you are wrong Floyd is not the employer in this case. The NSAC is the employer here and Floyd is just another employee. Employees don't mandate drug test for other employees. I got pulled over and I don't sell drugs or do anything illegal and the cop asked can he search my car and trunk and I said sure with probable cause and a warrant. I guess going by your logic I had something to hide????

I live in TN, which is a privilage to work state. If my employer were to come to me everyday and ask me to take a random drug test, but never asked anyone else, and I refused, in this state they have the right to terminate me. Don't know how it is where you live. But around here, those are the rules.

As for the police pulling you over. My thing is this, would it be a pain in the ass to allow them to search my car? Yes. But, if I knew I wasn't doing anything illegal, I wouldn't take issue with him searching my car.

[Stl_Buay]

Its not a job interview ****** , its a mega sporting event of superbowl proportions or bigger , *** off with your lame ass its like if you bull**** , if ***en nothing ,,,,, people cheat ya clown and for a dam lot less than these two will get paid , in this epic event one opponent asked the other to take the same test as him for PEDS and he said ***ing NO and you attack the guy asking and defend the guy saying NO ,,, get real mate your a ***ing child looking only at hype fanboy bull**** and not the reality and bottom line of this .

****** I didn't make the job reference, I responded to it... Like I said Steriods is only a issue in boxing when talking about Floyd fighting Pac and not ANY other fight and that is a fact!!!!

[Stl_Buay]

I live in TN, which is a privilage to work state. If my employer were to come to me everyday and ask me to take a random drug test, but never asked anyone else, and I refused, in this state they have the right to terminate me. Don't know how it is where you live. But around here, those are the rules.

As for the police pulling you over. My thing is this, would it be a pain in the ass to allow them to search my car? Yes. But, if I knew I wasn't doing anything illegal, I wouldn't take issue with him searching my car.

That's you, I respect that and you should respect me wanting to exercise my rights. If I gave you no reason to search my trunk and you didn't search the other peoples trunk, then you aint searching mine. I respect your way of thinking and you should respect mine. It's not like my way of thinking is crazy and out of the box. Actually my way of thinking is the law of the land. You can't single me out for testing without probable cause especially if I knew you didn't ask the same of 40 other people.

[straightleft]

In my world, drugs is a very black and white subject. I'm the type of person that feels clean people don't worry about ANY type of drug testing, peroid. If a person wanted to come and pluck hairs from my sack right now, I wouldn't object because I don't use drugs. I don't care about Mayweather's motives for asking for the testing. My opinion has been, and will remain that clean people don't care about being tested any where, any way, or at any time. That's just my opinion. The truth is, if you took Pac's stance with your employer, you would be fired. Because in the real world a refused test is a positive one. If everyone at you job takes one piss test when they're hired and never tests again. But, your supervisor comes to you on a weekly basis asking you to give a blood sample for a random drug test. You may not like it. It may not be fair. But if you refuse or say, ytou can only test me on Mondays, you'll be fired. I looked at Pac the same way. This is my last post on drug testing. First of all I don't care about it. Second of all Pac supposedly has agreed, so its a pointless and moot debate.

Correction. Floyd has no authority to ask someone doing the useless 2 months OST just in case you forgot that. If someone doesn't want to do that it doesn't mean he is a drug user. The same goes will apply in every days life. Not anybody like your neighbor asking you to take a drug test and if you refused automatically you indeed a drug user. Your example...employer vs Pac/May is far from reality. Your employer may have the right to ask you for drug testing otherwise he just sack you. But Floyd has no right, only the boxing commission who regulates the fights. If he really want the OST to implement in his fight he should ask the boxing commssion directly. Not to someone they slandering/accusing without proof for months then asked for useless OST the boxing commission not required expecting Pac will agree on it. Random Olympic Drug Testing (all year round 365/24/7 not the fake 2 months) is good overall for the sport but unrealistic in mass scale. No wonder up to this point nobody doing that useless Floyd thing.

[hitking]

That's you, I respect that and you should respect me wanting to exercise my rights. If I gave you no reason to search my trunk and you didn't search the other peoples trunk, then you aint searching mine. I respect your way of thinking and you should respect mine. It's not like my way of thinking is crazy and out of the box. Actually my way of thinking is the law of the land. You can't single me out for testing without probable cause especially if I knew you didn't ask the same of 40 other people.

Well, if you live in a state where you have a right to work, that is the law of the land. I live in a state where its a privilage to work. And in my state, if you take Manny Pacquaio's stance, you would be terminated from your place of employment and wouldn't have a lawsuit.