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  • IMDAZED
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    #241
    Originally posted by -Ironmike-
    True.

    Benn left with his health and money in the bank and im sure he has a lot of good memories as well

    Eubank left with his health in check, but is in debt to the tax-man for something like 1m

    lmao
    Nice debating with you dude, I'm out of this thread, no hard feelings
    "See" you around


    Later, bud.

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    • pistol whip
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      #242
      Could someone please list all the fighters that Roy didn't fight/ducked in the LHW and Super Middleweight divisions that were supposed to be sure shot HOF fighters?


      Oh yeah there is no list LOL!!! Seriously if Jones fought nothing but bums then who exactly was he supposed to be fighting??

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        #243
        Good point.

        Actually Roid Jones did not fight only bums , but he fought people either when they were :
        (1) drained
        (2) well above their prime weight
        (3) well above their prime years

        or a combination of the above with the addition of a few more.

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          #244
          Originally posted by frankenfrank
          Good point.

          Actually Roid Jones did not fight only bums , but he fought people either when they were :
          (1) drained
          (2) well above their prime weight
          (3) well above their prime years

          or a combination of the above with the addition of a few more.

          This would be a good point if there was actually other contenders who he could of fought but since there wern't any this is nothing more than sour g****s.

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            #245
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            Could someone please list all the fighters that Roy didn't fight/ducked in the LHW and Super Middleweight divisions that were supposed to be sure shot HOF fighters?


            Oh yeah there is no list LOL!!! Seriously if Jones fought nothing but bums then who exactly was he supposed to be fighting??
            A list of fighters Jones didnt fight at SMW is here:

            Originally posted by BattlingNelson
            I did a little research on Roy Jones Jr. and the opposition he fought as a SMW.

            Jones was in essense fighting in the 168 lb division from 1993 until 1996.

            Keys:

            RED = Eventually fought them or fought them already
            BLUE = Fought them in that year.

            The year end rankings of 1992 looked like this:

            1: Michael Nunn
            2: Iran Barkley
            3: Chris Eubank
            4: Victor Cordoba
            5: Nigel Benn
            6: Tim Littles
            7: Darrin Van Horn
            8: Tony Thornton
            9: Frankie Liles
            10: Frank Nicotra

            He fought Thornton in 1995.

            1993:

            1: James Toney
            2: Michael Nunn
            3: Chris Eubank
            4: Nigel Benn
            5: Tim Littles
            6: Darrin Van Horn
            7: Frankie Liles
            8: Tony Thornton
            9: Antoine Byrd
            10: Vincenzo Nardiello


            1994: Jones enters the list at no. 1 after beating Toney.

            1: Roy Jones Jr.
            2: Nigel Benn
            3: Chris Eubank
            4: Frankie Liles
            5: Vinny Pazienza
            6: Tim Littles
            7: Michael Nunn
            8: Ray Close
            9: Graciano Rocchigiani
            10: Antoine Byrd


            1995:

            1: Roy Jones Jr.
            2: Nigel Benn
            3: Steve Collins
            4: Frankie Liles
            5: Tim Littles
            6: Vinny Pazienza
            7: Bryant Brannon
            8: Henry Wharton
            9: Michael Nunn
            10: Ray Close


            1996:

            1: Roy Jones Jr.
            2: Frankie Liles
            3: Steve Collins
            4: Vinny Pazienza
            5: Robin Reid
            6: Henry Wharton
            7: Michael Nunn
            8: Vincenzo Nardiello
            9: Joseph Kiwanuka
            10: Thulani Malinga

            At the end of 1996 Jones had moved up.

            So Jones work after 4 years at 168 lb consist of an excellent win over Toney and not much else:

            Toney
            Thornton
            Pazienza (LOL)
            Byrd
            Brannon

            Jones never fought a top 3 opponent after Toney. He had 6 fights at 168 after beating him. Of those fights he beat an unranked Thornton, a suspected juiced lightweight in Pazienza, a past it Byrd, a never was in Sosa, a young non-threat in Lucas and a veteran of 16 fights in Brannon.


            So the deserving fighters Jones didn't fight (or ducked as it's called on NSB) is these guys:

            Nunn
            Benn
            Eubank
            Collins
            Barkley
            Cordoba
            Littles
            Van Horn
            Liles
            Nardiello
            Close
            Rocchigianni
            Nicotra



            Let's face it. A Nunn or a Benn or a Eubank or a Liles or even a Collins would have been real nice.

            (I hope I didn't miss anyone )

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              #246
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              A list of fighters Jones didnt fight at SMW is here:
              And none of those fighters were really anymore reputable than the fighters he ended up fighting anyway. Come on Iran Barkley for christ sake lost to lightweight Roberto Duran at Middleweight. Nunn and Eubank were B-fighters at best. Come on now replacing Jones supposed list of bum opponents with a list of more bums doesn't do a whole lot to strengthen your argument.

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                #247
                i was here...and thats exactly what was happening for months on end. Particularly from posters like Bozo No No and a few others whos names i cant remember. alot of europeans particularly took issue with it, including that autistic poster who posted nothing except eubank/benn articles

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                  #248
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  And none of those fighters were really anymore reputable than the fighters he ended up fighting anyway. Come on Iran Barkley for christ sake lost to lightweight Roberto Duran at Middleweight. Nunn and Eubank were B-fighters at best. Come on now replacing Jones supposed list of bum opponents with a list of more bums doesn't do a whole lot to strengthen your argument.
                  ^^^^That post is plain ignorant. I wont waste my time here.

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    A list of fighters Jones didnt fight at SMW is here:
                    You do realize you can do this list for every fighter in the world?

                    here, list of fighters such and such didn't fight....

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                      #250
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      You do realize you can do this list for every fighter in the world?

                      here, list of fighters such and such didn't fight....
                      This was a list on Jones in a thread about him. Be my guest and make a list of another fighter if you want.

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