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EXCLUSIVE THREAD: PBF FANS ONLY!! Name 1 Fighter and Why who Could Beat MAYWEATHER!!
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I honestly have Floyd beating everyone because I think he is the smartest and most focused fighter I ever saw. Of course I would not have been shocked if Sugar Ray Robinson beat him because SRR is considered by most to be the best to ever do it. I believe he beats Leonard by SD in a tough fight where Floyd clearly won.
The person that I always thought would give him trouble and possiblity beat him was Vernon Forrest.
He's tall, had a great jab, great 1-2, the 3 was a good clean up punch, utilize uppercuts, had a good chin, had good stamina and had good boxing IQ.
If Hearns didn't take Floyd early I think Floyd would have KO's him late. Didn't like the chin, focus and stamina. But the boxing ability was
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Originally posted by Travdog View PostI honestly have Floyd beating everyone because I think he is the smartest and most focused fighter I ever saw. Of course I would not have been shocked if Sugar Ray Robinson beat him because SRR is considered by most to be the best to ever do it. I believe he beats Leonard by SD in a tough fight where Floyd clearly won.
The person that I always thought would give him trouble and possiblity beat him was Vernon Forrest.
He's tall, had a great jab, great 1-2, the 3 was a good clean up punch, utilize uppercuts, had a good chin, had good stamina and had good boxing IQ.
If Hearns didn't take Floyd early I think Floyd would have KO's him late. Didn't like the chin, focus and stamina. But the boxing ability was
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not a huge floyd fan but props to horus on this thread first time i ever gave him green k lol
us having to create a thread ab going back in time just to find someone to beat him tell you how good he really is
imo floyd give anyone a tough night in any reasonable weight class
fighters who id bet on would be
hearns
ray leanord
terry norris
ray robinson
winky
other than these 4 im very doubtful
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Originally posted by -EX- View PostRay Charles Leonard would give Floyd hell at 147...I would probably favor Leonard in a fight...
Leonard is bigger and stronger, has faster hands than Floyd at 147...
I give Floyd a shot...he MIGHT be able to beat Leonard mentally...whether that's psyche before the fight or outsmarting him in the ring...
Would be a great fight though...
Hearns would be a tough fight and Duran as well...
If floyd had issues with DLH jab, or the speed of Judah the 1st 4 rounds til judah always self destructs, what would he do vs a much smarter, much mentally tougher Ray, who had as good as a jab as dlh had
Come on people you all that grew up in this mayweather era are jokes. Mayweather has never seen anything like a prime srl.
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Originally posted by wpink1 View PostMight Floyd would not have a chance vs prime SRL....Ray is to strong to fast, just as smart, mentally has the reach,,,would stay on top of mayweather like he did his father, and make him fight. Floyd could not hurt him, or stay away....
If floyd had issues with DLH jab, or the speed of Judah the 1st 4 rounds til judah always self destructs, what would he do vs a much smarter, much mentally tougher Ray, who had as good as a jab as dlh had
Come on people you all that grew up in this mayweather era are jokes. Mayweather has never seen anything like a prime srl.
Just some things to think about....
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Originally posted by No Ceilings View PostIm not sold on Tommy beating Floyd. And Tommy is from my city and hes my favorite fighter of all time. I have the career set, etc.
Im not sure he beats Mayweather. A big deal is made about 147 not being Floyds best weight so its not fair to match him with the ATG WW's.
I dissagree. This isnt his best weight but even still hes still amazing at 147.
Who has mayweather fought that is peak, and great, and at there best weight since he has been at welter? WhO?
Now to beat tommy you have to come to fight. Mayweather does not come to fight, he comes to box. Tommy made leonard become a fighter, and Ray did and that is how you beat Tommy. Not the pot shotting that Mayweather does. Remember the jab dlh used on Mayweather? and how when dlh had his wind, he was winning the fight. Well what do you think a 78 inch reach on tommy who unlike DLH has the best right hand that the division ever had..and a monster left hook too. Are you freaking kidding me. You think a man scared to even mention paul williams name is ready to deal with hearns..
This is straight up comedy....
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Originally posted by rubensonnny View PostI think Ray would probably win too but Floyd would definately have a chance. Ray puttin a beating on senior means nothing, its not relevant. Rays jab wasnt as good as DLHs and Leonard didnt always fight smart(Duran fight).
Just some things to think about....
Styles makes fights. floyd senior came up in a different era with only 2 champs. He would be a champion today in the 10 champ per weight class era. Floyd senior uses the shoulder roll and was fast and hit like a bitc$ like floyd does. Maybe he is not as good or is a slight bit slower but the fact is Ray would stay on top of floyd juniro making him fight and floyd junior would not be faster, nor are we talking about a38 year old like mosley, nor a fighter that loses to everyone after 4 rounds like judah, nor a shot fighter like dlh.
You say Ray didnt always fight smart like Duran. True you got one fight. However Mayweather is not duran. what style would mayweather use to beat leoanrd. Styles makes fights. So help me understand. Is he gonna outbox ray. Please. He cant hurt ray. He is not gonna fight the style of fight Duran used the 1st time vs Ray, a style that Ray adapted to and renedered helpless the 2nd fight.
Even floyds undle Roger said, SRl and Robinson at Welter were two fighters that his nephew would nto be able to beat. It would be a stoppage in 5. Keep this in mind. Mosley at 38 was able to land 2 shots vs Mayweather in the 2nd round but could not finish the job. Judah was able to land shots. SRl is 10 times the fighter either of these versions that showed up vs Mayweather was. If peak ray, the ray that beat hearns, showed up vs mayweather, it is not a fight, in fact as we know, mayweather would not even sign the contract.Last edited by wpink1; 09-05-2010, 04:25 PM.
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