EXCLUSIVE THREAD: PBF FANS ONLY!! Name 1 Fighter and Why who Could Beat MAYWEATHER!!

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WTF!!! Really?? I can't agree with that at all. De la Hoya missed the majority of his punches when PBF was laying on the ropes and got dominated when the fight was in the center of the ring.

That fight will never be close.

I agree dlh missed punches, but mayweather was not punching, thus they had no choice but to give DLH these boring rounds and mayweather did not fight many of the early rounds.

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You are being intellectually dishonest. Why don't you tell the whole truth.

Oscar came in a healthy 154 vs Floyd. He had a healthy diet regiment, slowly burning down to that weight.

Against Forbes, it was a catchweight fight at 150, a weight Oscar probably didn't walk around or weigh at in years. He looked like ****, and weighing in at 145 against Pacquiao, looked even more washed up.

Oscar was shot when he faced floyd. Totally shot. All he had was a jab. he had just lost 2 out of 4 fights and most thought he lost to Sturm. This was by no means a top DLH...And still mayweather won barely...what a joke.

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So when was Floyd's peak then? He was 29 years old when he fought Oscar.

More dishonestly on your part. Age doesn't tell the whole story.


His peak is where he was most effective and had everything going for him (I.E. Maximum peak speed, punching power). He had punching power at 130, 135, even at 140.

His peak was probably at 140, where he should've stayed for years longer but he rushed to win a title at 147 and go after Oscar.


At 147, his punching power was almost gone and Vs Oscar, even though he didn't weigh in at the limit of 154, he was the most BUFF I even seen him, which slowed him down.

NOT A PEAK FLOYD. A in shape Floyd? Yes. But no peak.

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Oscar was shot when he faced floyd. Totally shot. All he had was a jab. he had just lost 2 out of 4 fights and most thought he lost to Sturm. This was by no means a top DLH...And still mayweather won barely...what a joke.

We have to learn to distinguish between being Past-Prime and being Shot. There is a difference.

Oscar was past his prime, but by no means was he shot. Against Sturm, he came in with a soft out of shape body, lets keep that in mind if we're gonna use it.

Against B-Hop, he simply got Ko'd against a great middleweight, and won some rounds in the process. Came in great shape.

Had a great night against Mayorga, and put all his tools on display at his more natural weight of 154.

It was against Forbes where he started showing signs of being SHOT, and the going back down in weight along with his inactivity played a major part in that.

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Oscar was shot when he faced floyd. Totally shot. All he had was a jab. he had just lost 2 out of 4 fights and most thought he lost to Sturm. This was by no means a top DLH...And still mayweather won barely...what a joke.

Oscar won the WBC LMW belt in the fight before Mayweather which was an impressive KO win. At that point in his career he had only lost to Trinidad, Mosley (both controversial) and Hopkins (a much bigger opponent). This was a fight everyone wanted to see. Oscar was still a top 154lb fighter and Floyd has never fought at the weight before. Which made it interesting.

You need to learn the definition of "shot". A "shot" fighter is somebody who is completely finished and had nothing left. Oscar had just won a world title and gave one of his best performences of his entire career.

Iv'e gotta put you on ignore for such ignorance.

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We have to learn to distinguish between being Past-Prime and being Shot. There is a difference.

Oscar was past his prime, but by no means was he shot. Against Sturm, he came in with a soft out of shape body, lets keep that in mind if we're gonna use it.

Against B-Hop, he simply got Ko'd against a great middleweight, and won some rounds in the process. Came in great shape.

Had a great night against Mayorga, and put all his tools on display at his more natural weight of 154.

It was against Forbes where he started showing signs of being SHOT, and the going back down in weight along with his inactivity played a major part in that.

I will concur for th emost part but I will stick with shot, because had he been close to prime, he would have been able to pull out 1 of the last 5 rounds, as it was simply stamina isssues that rendered him helpless those last 5 rounds..

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I will concur for th emost part but I will stick with shot, because had he been close to prime, he would have been able to pull out 1 of the last 5 rounds, as it was simply stamina isssues that rendered him helpless those last 5 rounds..

I will have to disagree.

There is no way to tell whether he there were stamina issues, but what was evident is that his Jab got neutralized and he stopped trying to use it.

He said it himself during the post-fight interview: "For some reason, my Jab stopped working".

Yes for some mysterious reason, your key weapon stopped working. Couldn't have been because of your opponent could it.

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Oscar won the WBC LMW belt in the fight before Mayweather which was an impressive KO win. At that point in his career he had only lost to Trinidad, Mosley (both controversial) and Hopkins (a much bigger opponent). This was a fight everyone wanted to see. Oscar was still a top 154lb fighter and Floyd has never fought at the weight before. Which made it interesting.

You need to learn the definition of "shot". A "shot" fighter is somebody who is completely finished and had nothing left. Oscar had just won a world title and gave one of his best performences of his entire career.

Iv'e gotta put you on ignore for such ignorance.

oscar was a shot fighter. He may not have been totally shot like leoanrd was vs norris, but Oscar had nothing left in the tank. Remember that fight vs nosley was the 2nd fight. Tito he was slipping then.

Put it like this, DLh that fought Mosley the 1st time, would have destroyed Mayweather that night they fought. Facts going into round 8, DLh was winning 5-2 on 2 of the cards. Then he had stamina issues. Younger DLH who was able to fight 12 solid rounds vs Mosley, would have no problems beating Gayweather.

Again what Peak, great, and natural welter has Mayweather ever beat?

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I will have to disagree.

There is no way to tell whether he there were stamina issues, but what was evident is that his Jab got neutralized and he stopped trying to use it.

He said it himself during the post-fight interview: "For some reason, my Jab stopped working".

Yes for some mysterious reason, your key weapons stopped working. Couldn't have been because of your opponent could it.

Peak mayweather won a SD versus a fighter that had one punch the jab no right hand, no stamina after 7 rounds. HMMM and we wont to put him up there with the Leonards, Robinsons, etc. Maybe a discussion for pound for pound, but at Welter a peak leonard stops mayweather easily if he goes for the kill. That fight is not even close.

Hearns would slaughter Mayweather....

IN fact. we are talking about all time top great fighers, and mayweather will not fight the best today. He wont fight Williams, he wont sign to fight Pacman, he ducked margo, he will not fight cotto. he backed out of a signed contract with Winky wright.... And we think he would honestly sign to fight a SRL or Hearns...Please.. Based on what, as he has yet to prove he will fight big peak Welter. only old shot welters or small fighters.

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Peak mayweather won a SD versus a fighter that had one punch the jab no right hand, no stamina after 7 rounds. HMMM and we wont to put him up there with the Leonards, Robinsons, etc. Maybe a discussion for pound for pound, but at Welter a peak leonard stops mayweather easily if he goes for the kill. That fight is not even close.

Hearns would slaughter Mayweather....

IN fact. we are talking about all time top great fighers, and mayweather will not fight the best today. He wont fight Williams, he wont sign to fight Pacman, he ducked margo, he will not fight cotto. he backed out of a signed contract with Winky wright.... And we think he would honestly sign to fight a SRL or Hearns...Please.. Based on what, as he has yet to prove he will fight big peak Welter. only old shot welters or small fighters.

Well that was a rather random response.

What does that have to do with what I said.

And again, the fact that Floyd won it by Split Decision is irrelevant to me, seeing as how I with many others scored it for Floyd Unanimously.

Don't get emotional on me, it's boring and I've read it all before.