PACQUIAO fed up with all the Mayweather nonsense in this ESPN video interview

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  • namme
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    #41
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    If manny simply said I wont take tests instead of the multiple excuses you would have a point. But Manny did that to himself floyd didnt do it to him. As far as the demand, Manny had his stips and floyd had his. My guess is he had the stip because his camp believes manny uses some form of PED.

    Your point about upbrining is respectfully, moot because Manny is earning money here in america. he is trained by roach, who has had at leats 2 fighters test positive. he is promoted by an american who is not above doing things to make money.
    You don't really understand cultures, do you? I just hope you could go to the Philippines and live there for a year or two, study the way athletes live there and the families and backgrounds they have, if you still would think about PEDs or steroids.

    You seem to have a myopic way of thinking that the american way of doing things is "the only way." Just because Roach is an American and his conditioning coach is also an american, as well as the gym that are full of americans, then Pacquiao could be taking PEDs/steroids? What is that? Judgment by association with known PED users?

    To quote you, "let's at least be reasonable here."

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      #42
      Originally posted by namme
      You don't really understand cultures, do you? I just hope you could go to the Philippines and live there for a year or two, study the way athletes live there and the families and backgrounds they have, if you still would think about PEDs or steroids.

      You seem to have a myopic way of thinking that the american way of doing things is "the only way." Just because Roach is an American and his conditioning coach is also an american, as well as the gym that are full of americans, then Pacquiao could be taking PEDs/steroids? What is that? Judgment by association with known PED users?

      To quote you, "let's at least be reasonable here."
      on the real to be honest with you I gotta buddy whose Filipino and he even said that cheating is common in his culture and wouldn't be surprised if manny
      was doping....he of course still roots for manny......

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        #43
        Manny is going to keep fighting GREAT BOXERS(and win). Floyd is going to semi retire, look for an EZ win anywhere he can find them and give 50 Cent bj's. Is this not completely clear to everyone?

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        • namme
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          #44
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Don't you just love it when they use the "my country is holier" routine?
          That's not a saying that "my country is holier". We're talking about cultures here. You can't just "impose" the way of doing things according only to american standards. People around the world are just simply different. Every country has a certain tradition and beliefs. That should also be considered before judging a certain person of different race and culture.

          One cannot just simply judge a person like Pacquiao because that's the way American athletes normally do.

          My point is that Pacquiao's initial refusal to take the test was more of a cultural thing. His superstitious beliefs as well as pride to "stoop down" just to agree to Floyd's demand got the better of him at that time. PEDs/Steroids are simply an american "thing."

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            #45
            Originally posted by namme
            You don't really understand cultures, do you? I just hope you could go to the Philippines and live there for a year or two, study the way athletes live there and the families and backgrounds they have, if you still would think about PEDs or steroids.

            You seem to have a myopic way of thinking that the american way of doing things is "the only way." Just because Roach is an American and his conditioning coach is also an american, as well as the gym that are full of americans, then Pacquiao could be taking PEDs/steroids? What is that? Judgment by association with known PED users?

            To quote you, "let's at least be reasonable here."
            I never said he used PED's. I said his numerous excuses made the media doubt him. Sorry dude but when you give reasons for not taking tests like "I'm afraid of needles" unbiased reasonable people are going to ask " you are, well how could you stand getting tatoos"?

            This isn't a cultural issue its a money issue. I think any man (especially one that cheats on his wife with hookers) may compromise his values to make the millions of dollars manny has made.

            You point out he wants to help his people. if thats true maybe he sees it as a lesser of 2evils thing. I'll take PED's because if I do I can make more money whcih I can then give to my people.

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              #46
              Originally posted by namme
              That's not a saying that "my country is holier". We're talking about cultures here. You can't just "impose" the way of doing things according only to american standards. People around the world are just simply different. Every country has a certain tradition and beliefs. That should also be considered before judging a certain person of different race and culture.

              One cannot just simply judge a person like Pacquiao because that's the way American athletes normally do.

              My point is that Pacquiao's initial refusal to take the test was more of a cultural thing. His superstitious beliefs as well as pride to "stoop down" just to agree to Floyd's demand got the better of him at that time. PEDs/Steroids are simply an american "thing."
              But money is a universal thing!

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                #47
                Originally posted by ronniejunior
                on the real to be honest with you I gotta buddy whose Filipino and he even said that cheating is common in his culture and wouldn't be surprised if manny
                was doping....he of course still roots for manny......
                Cheating is universal. But not about PEDs and steroids.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  But money is a universal thing!
                  Yes, money is a universal thing.

                  But GREED for money is different. I don't think Pacquiao's greed for money got the better of him during his refusal to give in to Floyd's demand. As I said, he has other reasons--as I stated already in my previous posts.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by namme
                    Yes, money is a universal thing.

                    But GREED for money is different. I don't think Pacquiao's greed for money got the better of him during his refusal to give in to Floyd's demand. As I said, he has other reasons--as I stated already in my previous posts.
                    Then you need only check back to pac hatton to see if he isn't motivated by greed. Manny is a greedy as floyd is. Floyd is just more honest about it.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by namme
                      Cheating is universal. But not about PEDs and steroids.
                      Do you understand how ****** this post sounds?

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