PACQUIAO fed up with all the Mayweather nonsense in this ESPN video interview

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  • straightleft
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    #31
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    All the pac marg fight shows is manny is a greedy **** that took the more lucrative fight rather than better challenges (bradley, Pwill, Berto) that are available. This is the same things pac fans and the media say about another fighter. Can't call it different just cuz manny's doing it.
    Pwill maybe but he should fight the middleweights because of his height advantage over the midgets at welterweights. Better challenges to Pac, Bradley and Berto? bwa hahaha!

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    • Pullcounter
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      #32
      why talk about a fight when floyd won't even admit that negotiations were going on?

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        #33
        we all know the 2nd negotiation was one-sided. it's ****** to claim something for floyd in the 2nd negotiations because he never made his position clear. in fact he even denied that a negotiation took place although it's very clear his manager tried to negotiate for him.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          yes they do because manny has made it clear he wants to know when tests occur and when they stop. athletes that use tend to wnat to know when they are going to be tested so they can structure cycling on and off arund the tests. Doesn't prove he is on PED's.

          I'm sure there are other factors. As for American cant understand I dont know these you have to be specific.

          Silence is not a refusal. Silence is nothing but silence. If I call you a fa99ot and you don't respond that doesn't mean I can make a determination of your sexual preference. Lets at least be reasonable.

          Mayweather didn't respond to top rank's atatement that Manny accepted all floyd's terms. Why didn't he say anything I dont know for sure. IMO its because the offer was not real. I base this opinion on 2 things: Marg's february interview where he said Bob promised him a November fight with Pac and the fact top rank never told us specifically what the "terms" were.
          Pacquiao as I understand the person, is not your typical American type of athlete, who is willing to find a way simply to excel and be the best. Filipino athletes don't have the same attitude as Americans where one is willing to enhance himself with PEDs/steroids just to stay on top. It is an american culture to compete with the best to the point of being willing to take PEDs and steroids just to stay in competition.

          Pacquiao is the only athlete in the Philippines who stands out with the rest of the famous and best athletes in the world. You don't hear other filipino athletes having this kind of reputation as Pacquiao.

          PEDs/steroids are brought about by an american culture of too much competition. Pacquiao would never get into that kind of thing because that is not a filipino way of doing things. The fact that there are no filipino athletes comparable to Pacquiao's feats is a clear indication that he is simply a unique kind of athlete. Intensive athletic competition in the Philippines is way way far behind what american athletes like to do. Pacquiao is not into this culture. I might believe that Pacquiao is into PEDs/steroids if he has been living in the US for years, but he is not. After every fight he would go back to the Philippines and stay with people who are not even athletes...you would be wondering what would influence him to take PEDs/steroids when the rest of the people he goes with are not even into any athletic competition, who could teach him to take all this sort of things.

          Now just because Pacquiao refuses the first time to take the test, people would accuse him of taking PEDs? Maybe based on american athletes way of living, it's just rational to think of Pacquiao as taking PEDs, but the way Pacquiao is brought up "the filipino way," I don't think he is on PEDs. Now to quote you, "let's at least be reasonable on this."

          Now on the other hand, even if Mayweather is not saying anything in public. It's still clear, he refuses to fight Pacquiao. What other reasons could there be? The question is why? Just like you, I don't know for sure. But based on the past boxing champions, like Hagler, Holyfield, Foreman and renowned boxing writers, like Bert Sugar and Al Bernstein, in the past, they say that boxers don't demand too much, they just fight.

          Of all the boxers, present and past, it's only Mayweather who has this kind of demand. why?

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            #35
            Originally posted by straightleft
            Pwill maybe but he should fight the middleweights because of his height advantage over the midgets at welterweights. Better challenges to Pac, Bradley and Berto? bwa hahaha!
            They are better than Marg is right now. Height has nothing to do with anything. Like I said manny took the more lucrative fight insteda of the better challenges. Hold him to the same standard you hold floyd and its no different.

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              #36
              Originally posted by namme;9146472[B
              ]Pacquiao as I understand the person, is not your typical American type of athlete, who is willing to find a way simply to excel and be the best. Filipino athletes don't have the same attitude as Americans where one is willing to enhance himself with PEDs/steroids just to stay on top. It is an american culture to compete with the best to the point of being willing to take PEDs and steroids just to stay in competition. [/B]
              Don't you just love it when they use the "my country is holier" routine?

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #37
                Originally posted by namme
                Pacquiao as I understand the person, is not your typical American type of athlete, who is willing to find a way simply to excel and be the best. Filipino athletes don't have the same attitude as Americans where one is willing to enhance himself with PEDs/steroids just to stay on top. It is an american culture to compete with the best to the point of being willing to take PEDs and steroids just to stay in competition.

                Pacquiao is the only athlete in the Philippines who stands out with the rest of the famous and best athletes in the world. You don't hear other filipino athletes having this kind of reputation as Pacquiao.

                PEDs/steroids are brought about by an american culture of too much competition. Pacquiao would never get into that kind of thing because that is not a filipino way of doing things. The fact that there are no filipino athletes comparable to Pacquiao's feats is a clear indication that he is simply a unique kind of athlete. Intensive athletic competition in the Philippines is way way far behind what american athletes like to do. Pacquiao is not into this culture. I might believe that Pacquiao is into PEDs/steroids if he has been living in the US for years, but he is not. After every fight he would go back to the Philippines and stay with people who are not even athletes...you would be wondering what would influence him to take PEDs/steroids when the rest of the people he goes with are not even into any athletic competition, who could teach him to take all this sort of things.

                Now just because Pacquiao refuses the first time to take the test, people would accuse him of taking PEDs? Maybe based on american athletes way of living, it's just rational to think of Pacquiao as taking PEDs, but the way Pacquiao is brought up "the filipino way," I don't think he is on PEDs. Now to quote you, "let's at least be reasonable on this."

                Now on the other hand, even if Mayweather is not saying anything in public. It's still clear, he refuses to fight Pacquiao. What other reasons could there be? The question is why? Just like you, I don't know for sure. But based on the past boxing champions, like Hagler, Holyfield, Foreman and renowned boxing writers, like Bert Sugar and Al Bernstein, in the past, they say that boxers don't demand too much, they just fight.

                Of all the boxers, present and past, it's only Mayweather who has this kind of demand. why?
                If manny simply said I wont take tests instead of the multiple excuses you would have a point. But Manny did that to himself floyd didnt do it to him. As far as the demand, Manny had his stips and floyd had his. My guess is he had the stip because his camp believes manny uses some form of PED.

                Your point about upbrining is respectfully, moot because Manny is earning money here in america. he is trained by roach, who has had at leats 2 fighters test positive. he is promoted by an american who is not above doing things to make money.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by straightleft
                  Try this! Give me a link where Floyd dare to mention Pacquiao's name nowadays without telling himself he is on vacation! *****!


                  Hilarious. Had ZERO to do with my post, typical though.

                  Carry on nonetheless.

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                  • namme
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    All the pac marg fight shows is manny is a greedy **** that took the more lucrative fight rather than better challenges (bradley, Pwill, Berto) that are available. This is the same things pac fans and the media say about another fighter. Can't call it different just cuz manny's doing it.
                    Pacquiao is simply a prizefighter. What else could he be?

                    Toney went to MMA because of money.
                    Holyfield is still fighting because of money.
                    Mayweather....nah...you know that already.

                    My point is that, he has one or two years left before he retires and he always says that as a congressman, he wants to help his poor constituents. I don't know, but he could be thinking that the money he can generate from this Margarito fight could probably help the poor. I just think he has his reasons for taking this fight. He is a prizefighter, isn't he?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by namme
                      Pacquiao is simply a prizefighter. What else could he be?

                      Toney went to MMA because of money.
                      Holyfield is still fighting because of money.
                      Mayweather....nah...you know that already.

                      My point is that, he has one or two years left before he retires and he always says that as a congressman, he wants to help his poor constituents. I don't know, but he could be thinking that the money he can generate from this Margarito fight could probably help the poor. I just think he has his reasons for taking this fight. He is a prizefighter, isn't he?
                      The reason is he wants to get paid like floyd does. Are you really implying that he is fighting marg and (allegedly) asking for a $22.5 mil guarantee so he can help the poor? really?

                      Did he give the poor people of the philipines free tickets to see wapakman? did he do the movie for free? does he give them the money from nike? did he give them free time magazines when he was on the cover?

                      Jeez!

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