Just re watched Cotto vs Margarito

[-Kev-]

Clottey also hurt Margarito with a punch that Margarito ran in to. But Margarito hanged on for dear life. And Clottey is not a big puncher. Williams tagged Margarito a bunch of times and seemed to stun him at least. Mosley destroyed Margarito. Cotto did none of the above even with clean shots. So his power may be a bit overrated.

[AFighter4U]

IMO Cotto loses heart when he thinks that he can't hurt his opponent. Example Marga and Pac. Especially Manny's case if he showed he was hurt by Cotto's punches I'm 100% sure Cotto would have traded more and go for the offensive against Pac.

[AFighter4U]

I would rate Manny's punches 6 but does critical damage when you don't see where it is coming from.

[VERDUGO]

Cotto's biggest mistake was that he stayed too long on the ropes for Marg to unload punches on him. imo


.

[Weebler I]

Also, even if Margarito was using plaster in his wraps for the Cotto fight (which I probably think he was) the problem Cotto had was dealing with the relentless pressure of Margarito. I think a rematch would have a similar outcome.

As I recall, Cotto was boxing the head off Margarito, it was only when Margo started hitting him with upper-cuts between the guard that Cotto slowed down.

The real question is whether he was throwing cement uppercuts or regular ones.

[Low_ki]

cotto's power is slightly overrated imo, I would say he is a 7/10. combine that with the plaster shots he absorbed which began to sap his strength which explains why margarita was able to walk through so many of his shots. it was obvious his intent was to KO margarita and it backfired on him.

[Roxas]

Margs chin won't be the same against Pac plus Pac punches much quciker and flusher then Mosley and is a more effective two handed fighter

[Crazylegs77]

2 questions:

Marg took a lot of clean powerful shots from Cotto and walked (and even ran at some points) through them like they were nothing, Pacquiao did the same a year later.

Cotto was previously thought to be one of the pound for pound big punchers before the Marg fight. Was Cotto's power overrated? Similarly was Marg's chin overrated? (Bearing in mind for both these questions what Mosley did to Margarito)

Also, even if Margarito was using plaster in his wraps for the Cotto fight (which I probably think he was) the problem Cotto had was dealing with the relentless pressure of Margarito. I think a rematch would have a similar outcome.

Yeah good observations I think one of the things also worth mentioning was Margarito in that fight showed great determination and focus this was a big deal match for him and I think that helped him walk through alot of those shots, but yes Cottos power is questionable above 147 it was more evident at the lower weights. When later we see Marg get stopped by Mosley I think his mind was not on the fight and Mosley was LOADING up on those shots and he has good proven power.

[jazluvr]

I am just dying to see what he can do now against someone who is fairly equal and presents a good challenge to Cotto, i want to see a good "barometer" to judge how well he has recuperated from those 2 brutal losses, and to see how good a job Steward did with "restoring" Miguels old style minus the bad habits Steward said he has corrected.

He should by now be pretty used to sparring with some good guys at his new weight and be comfortable enough to take on a real challenge. Not one where he has a good chance of losing, but pit him against a fighter that is capable of giving him a real hard time, so that he really needs to dig in deep to come out with a good, credible win.

[HandSpeed303]

also remember the boxing rule

swarmer beats boxer

boxer beats slugger

slugger beats swarmer


margarito the swarmer owned cotto the boxer just like he's supposed to cus boxer needs distance and timing and swarmer negates all that just like he did against cotto

a slugger owns swarmer because a swarmer does exactly what a slugger wants you to do, he comes right at you and lets you tee off on him. this is why mosley the slugger annihilated margarito

and boxer beats slugger because a slugger can't deal with distance and timing/skill as well, so Cotto the boxer beat Mosley the slugger.

works out perfectly

If it was only that easy..........

Not for nothing but Margarito took a brutal beating in that fight. Lots of punches. Cotto may have been ruined a la Meldrick Taylor but people forget that Chavez wasn't the same after that either.

First quote: Very good post, and alot of the time, it does happen that way.

Second quote: Of course there are cases where it doesn't play out that way...Floyd vs Chavez for example (swarmer vs boxer)

Third quote:very good point!

All in all, three good post.