James Toney is OLD, FAT and SHOT

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  • johnm is...
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    #21
    Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
    lol, boxing fans tryin to cover thier ass before the fight expectin a loss



    All of you said boxers would knock em out before now you quick to change the story? LOL
    I've never said he would knock him out, you're just talking out of your ass.

    You take someone saying "Toney can knock him out", and twist it into "Toney WILL knock him out".

    LOL @ acting like it's some great feat for Couture to beat Toney in a fucking MMA match.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Forza
      MMA likes to take fat old washed up boxers and pit them against veterans to make their ****ty sport look good. Even freddy roach said this.

      Vitali would K.O the **** out of any of these MMA cowards
      Couture is 47 man lol You think grandpa Couture can take punches from a pro boxer? Randy has been gettin dropped by MMA guys easy...MMA guys!




      Like I siad, if Kimbo can learn a ground game with his slow striking and win...then Toney with his fast hands can win too

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      • Clegg
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        #23
        Yeah, I remebmber actually I planned to bet on the guy in your avatar to beat him before that fight got cancelled. Would've been a nice earner that one.

        Toney, aside from being fat and shot, also doesn't have the right style for MMA striking IMO. Obviously he has good hands, but someone like Mayorga would've had a better chance due to the fact that he's arguably the biggest, strongest, hardest hitting 154lber in the world. I don't really think any boxer is a natural fit for MMA, but the 'puncher's chance' is greater if you're aggressive and can actually punch very hard.

        Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
        Randy lost 3 of his last 4 fights, he got a gift decision against Vera



        Bernard has never been knocked out, Randy has 5 times
        Randy hasn't been knocked out 5 times. The only way someone could think that is if they just looked at a bunch of results online instead of watching the fights.

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        • Forza
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          #24
          Nobody cares about the ground game, it didn't work for Tim Sylvia and it won't work against anybody fighting a boxer that can punch.

          And Toney isn't even a puncher he's a boxing chess player and inside fighter.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Clegg
            Yeah, I remebmber actually I planned to bet on the guy in your avatar to beat him before that fight got cancelled. Would've been a nice earner that one.

            Toney, aside from being fat and shot, also doesn't have the right style for MMA striking IMO. Obviously he has good hands, but someone like Mayorga would've had a better chance due to the fact that he's arguably the biggest, strongest, hardest hitting 154lber in the world. I don't really think any boxer is a natural fit for MMA, but the 'puncher's chance' is greater if you're aggressive and can actually punch very hard.



            Randy hasn't been knocked out 5 times. The only way someone could think that is if they just looked at a bunch of results online instead of watching the fights.
            Toneys striking is still miles ahead of any guy in the UFC...You really think Toney is gonna use the shoulder roll in the UFC? LOL

            This guy can fight

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              #26
              If this guy can win in the UFC, it will be easy work for Toney

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                #27
                Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
                Toneys striking is still miles ahead of any guy in the UFC...You really think Toney is gonna use the shoulder roll in the UFC? LOL

                This guy can fight

                Offensive and defensive skills are different things. Toney's offensive striking abilities are not the best in MMA. I think a boxer would be best served by blitzing their opponent instantly, Mike Tyson-style. That just isn't the way JT does things.

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                • Forza
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                  #28
                  Kimbo was fed cans in MMA, toney is fighting a top 10 fighter and veteran grappler. Toney would kill the guys kimbo beat.

                  Couture is a good grappler thats why dana white put him against toney

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    Randy hasn't been knocked out 5 times. The only way someone could think that is if they just looked at a bunch of results online instead of watching the fights.
                    And the early ones, specifically with Liddell, he wasn't really mentally focused.

                    That's Randy's big flaw. He's got all the blueprints set up, but if he's not mentally into it, it all falls apart.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Forza
                      Kimbo was fed cans in MMA,
                      By Gary Shaw.

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